Try to install it and check what version you got.
The label says it have some extra USB features.

Complimento sounds like an add on disc.

Eg the plus pack.
It doesn't sound like an actual os.

majinga wrote on 2024-10-22, 11:06:

Try to install it and check what version you got.
The label says it have some extra USB features.

I would have to buy to try it and if it's not what I'm looking for no thank you 😀

myne wrote on 2024-10-22, 11:07:

Complimento sounds like an add on disc.

Eg the plus pack.
It doesn't sound like an actual os.

Yes that's my doubt, but on the other hand the stuff seems the same of the other cd. The bundle has the manual and product code...

The stuff on the right says it must be sold with a pc only, all the same blablabla.

Complemento para Windows 95, incluye mejoras en aspecto visual, temas, etc.

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Add-on for Windows 95, includes improvements in visual appearance, themes, etc.

myne wrote on 2024-10-22, 11:59:

Complemento para Windows 95, incluye mejoras en aspecto visual, temas, etc.

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Add-on for Windows 95, includes improvements in visual appearance, themes, etc.

Good point, even if it's spanish and not italian. The question is, it is just the addon or the full cd plus the addon?
From what I saw the various win95 versions have several addons.

Nemo1985 wrote on 2024-10-22, 11:00:

I think the sweetspot would be OSR 2.1, it lacks internet explorer 4 and the active desktop bulky stuff but it's updated (and since I use a localized version, hopefully it won't have the infamous io.sys bug.

You can abort the IE4 installing stuff on the later Windows 95 and it'll never intrude again. It shows up as a later phase after the first successful login and can be terminated and you'll be IE4 free. It's not IE4 integrated out of the cabs.

On fast CPUs though you'll still have to grab that patch ms released after the K6 350.

DISCLAIMER: I have only used EN-US and JP Windows 95 releases.

It could be a Companion CD. If so, it's not installable. Basically, it's gonna have all Win95 files without the setup.exe. The point was to let the user add/remove parts of Windows from this disc without being able to install the system on another computer.

AFAIK you'd have to copy all the win95 files from this CD to your HDD then add a bunch of files from any other version of Win95, which kinda defeats the purpose. See here: Re: Got a big problem with installing windows 95 from CD.

jheronimus wrote on 2024-10-22, 13:51:

It could be a Companion CD. If so, it's not installable. Basically, it's gonna have all Win95 files without the setup.exe. The point was to let the user add/remove parts of Windows from this disc without being able to install the system on another computer.

AFAIK you'd have to copy all the win95 files from this CD to your HDD then add a bunch of files from any other version of Win95, which kinda defeats the purpose. See here: Re: Got a big problem with installing windows 95 from CD.

Thank you, definitely it's a no go then... I will need to find something else :\

I'm not so sure...
Searching the part number 000-59944
found this English version
https://www.ebay.com/itm/294814703043

then searching the English name "Microsoft Windows 95 with USB Support Disc"
finds this reddit post
https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/yw6 … dth_usb_support

Does seem to be a copy of Win95 OSR 2.1 or 2.5 but I couldn't say for sure
And as leileilol said if it is 2.5 you can skip the IE4 install easy enough by ejecting the CD before windows first boot, or if your copying the cab files to the hard drive simply delete the cab files named IE4.

leileilol wrote on 2024-10-22, 13:34:

You can abort the IE4 installing stuff on the later Windows 95 and it'll never intrude again. It shows up as a later phase afte […]
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Nemo1985 wrote on 2024-10-22, 11:00:

I think the sweetspot would be OSR 2.1, it lacks internet explorer 4 and the active desktop bulky stuff but it's updated (and since I use a localized version, hopefully it won't have the infamous io.sys bug.

You can abort the IE4 installing stuff on the later Windows 95 and it'll never intrude again. It shows up as a later phase after the first successful login and can be terminated and you'll be IE4 free. It's not IE4 integrated out of the cabs.

On fast CPUs though you'll still have to grab that patch ms released after the K6 350.

DISCLAIMER: I have only used EN-US and JP Windows 95 releases.

I can confirm this totally works. I've been doing the same for years. It will give you the same result than a normal 4.00.950B installation. The only lack I can think of is just that the WELCOME.exe helper that is present on earlier versions of Windows 95 (retail, A and B) won't launch at all under Win95C.

BTW, leilei: knowing your big taste for 256 color icons, was there ever an "OSR 2" release of Plus! with updated dlls/fixes/whatever that sorted out any kind of nasty bugs with win95b/c?

So far, all Plus! versions I've come across are standalone cds with files dated 24/08/1995.

Well in the end I bought another windows 95, sadly with the manual a bit damaged but it should be osr 2\2.1
I can't see any advantage of using osr 2.5 and having to mess with ejecting the cd, abort the installation of ie 3, the active desktop and all those stuff very useless nowadays, na I prefer to have a osr 2 without need of tampering.

chinny22 wrote on 2024-10-22, 23:27:

I'm not so sure... Searching the part number 000-59944 found this English version https://www.ebay.com/itm/294814703043 […]
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I'm not so sure...
Searching the part number 000-59944
found this English version
https://www.ebay.com/itm/294814703043

then searching the English name "Microsoft Windows 95 with USB Support Disc"
finds this reddit post
https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/yw6 … dth_usb_support
[...]

Yes the part number of italian version is different (I suppose it goes for every localized version which adds a 7 to it.
It's going to be osr 2\2.1, while the osr 2.5 another product code on the cd (which I can't find now but I have written it down somewhere).

Also I need to do an errata corrige, the infamous io.sys bug of licalized version is on osr 2.5 not the 2\2.1

Nemo1985 wrote on 2024-10-22, 11:00:

I think the sweetspot would be OSR 2.1, it lacks internet explorer 4 and the active desktop bulky stuff but it's updated (and since I use a localized version, hopefully it won't have the infamous io.sys bug.

you problably know this already, but if it's affected, it's easily fixed: https://web.archive.org/web/20030210133933/ht … .com/?id=170456 and judging by the file dates, most (all?) releases of OSR2.1 (with USB support printed on the disc) are already fixed anyway. coindicentally, the english OSR 2.1 disc shows a 0197 date, while the non-english ones are 0397 - maybe they postponed them to include this fix. though, don't understand that line about himem.sys not loading to HMA with this bug - himem should be required to use the HMA in the first place, and mem /c still shows it resident in conventional memory even if it's the correct 1kb file.

it's also odd that of all things, they kept the downloads for this bug but not for the P6 VMM issues (https://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?ti … _Archive/179897) where like a lot of other things, it was simply replaced with "update to windows 98" by the time KB pages got archived.

auron wrote on 2024-10-23, 06:51:

Nemo1985 wrote on 2024-10-22, 11:00:

I think the sweetspot would be OSR 2.1, it lacks internet explorer 4 and the active desktop bulky stuff but it's updated (and since I use a localized version, hopefully it won't have the infamous io.sys bug.

you problably know this already, but if it's affected, it's easily fixed: https://web.archive.org/web/20030210133933/ht … .com/?id=170456 and judging by the file dates, most (all?) releases of OSR2.1 (with USB support printed on the disc) are already fixed anyway. though, don't understand that line about himem.sys not loading to HMA with this bug - himem should be required to use the HMA in the first place, and mem /c still shows it resident in conventional memory even if it's the correct 1kb file.

it's also odd that of all things, they kept the downloads for this bug but not for the P6 VMM issues (https://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?ti … _Archive/179897) where like a lot of other things, it was simply replaced with "update to windows 98" by the time KB pages got archived.

Thank you, I knew there was a patch, but now I'm confused, on wikipedia they claim the affected version is osr 2.5, so it was the osr 2\2.1

subhuman@xgtx wrote on 2024-10-23, 06:36:

BTW, leilei: knowing your big taste for 256 color icons, was there ever an "OSR 2" release of Plus! with updated dlls/fixes/whatever that sorted out any kind of nasty bugs with win95b/c?

Don't think so. The 1997 OSR2+Plus! discs come with the standard Plus! as far as I know (with old ie etc.).

Plus! for Kids could be considered a successor though, came out around OSR2's time, and later Windows releases would at least take a theme from it (But leave out the fun stuff like the "____ It!" apps)

So a bit unrelated question, I received one copy of the os, it was sold as sealed but it's clearly not, on the top part there is a cut which make it not sealed.
So it's not meat nor fish, it's open but I can't use it without taking off the wrap completely.
Do you know if there is a sealing machine which can be bought for cheap? Or I should buy transparent envelopes to keep the stuff in so it will be protected without being actually sealed?