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First post, by anakin94

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Hi,
i want to make a list about 3D compatible video cards which don't have a graphic chip in a BGA package.
If you want to help, please provide cards name with APIs and rank them with the performance.
Also please report errors.
Thanks.

1. 3Dfx Voodoo² (D3D, Glide, OpenGL)
2. 3Dfx Voodoo Graphics (D3D, Glide, OpenGL)
3. 3Dfx Voodoo Rush (D3D, Glide, OpenGL)
4. NEC PowerVR PCX2 (D3D, OpenGL, PowerSGL)
5. Trident Blade 3D (D3D, OpenGL)
6. ATI Rage Pro aka XPERT@Play/Work (CIF, D3D, OpenGL)
7. NEC PowerVR PCX1 (D3D, OpenGL, PowerSGL)
8. S3 Trio3D/2X (D3D, S3D)
9. S3 Trio3D (D3D, S3D)
10. Rendition Vérité V1000 (CGL, D3D, OpenGL)
11. ATI Rage II (CIF, D3D)
12. Creative 3D Blaster VLB - GLINT 300SX (CGL, D3D, OpenGL)
13. S3 ViRGE/GX (D3D, S3D)
14. Cirrus Logic Laguna 3D (D3D)
15. SiS 6326 (D3D, partially OpenGL)
16. Accelgraphics AG300 (D3D, OpenGL)
17. S3 ViRGE/DX (D3D, S3D)
18. Chromatic Mpact! (D3D)
19. S3 ViRGE/325 (D3D, S3D)
20. Alliance ProMotion aT3D (D3D)
21. ATI 3D Rage (CIF, D3D)
22. Matrox Impression Plus - IS-ATHENA (RenderWare)
23. Paradise Tasmania 3D (RenderWare, BRender and RenderMorphics)
24. Matrox MGA Millennium (?)
25. Nvidia NV1 (NVLib)

The order is not correct.

Last edited by anakin94 on 2025-04-30, 15:54. Edited 6 times in total.

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Reply 1 of 18, by clownwolf

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1st option: Go to retroweb. Go to "Chips" > expand the search options and select "Video". You should be able to visually see which chips are not BGA. You can then just click it and it should have a link to cards that used the chip, if any.

2nd option: Go to vintage3d.org. Go to the database and select "card name", "chip name", "performance index".

This will generate of 3d cards ranked based off performance. You can just google each card + chip to visually see if its BGA.

For example card # 631 on the list is Blade 3D, using chip 9880. Google "Blade 3D 9880" and you can see its not BGA.

Reply 2 of 18, by mkarcher

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anakin94 wrote on 2025-04-27, 09:24:

12. S3 ViRGE/325/VX (Direct3D, S3D)

ViRGE/VX is not supposed to be on that list. The "classic" ViRGE (325) is a 208-pin PQFP chip, but the ViRGE/VX (988) is a 388-ball BGA chip.

Reply 3 of 18, by anakin94

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clownwolf wrote on 2025-04-27, 09:53:

For example card # 631 on the list is Blade 3D, using chip 9880. Google "Blade 3D 9880" and you can see its not BGA.

Thank you for the infos.
I have added the Blade 3D.

mkarcher wrote on 2025-04-27, 10:34:

ViRGE/VX is not supposed to be on that list. The "classic" ViRGE (325) is a 208-pin PQFP chip, but the ViRGE/VX (988) is a 388-ball BGA chip.

Thanks i removed it.

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Reply 6 of 18, by anakin94

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Babasha wrote on 2025-04-27, 11:39:

3DLabs GLINT 300SX - Creative 3D Blaster VLB - https://vintage3d.org/3dlabs.php#sthash.U7Fbtjx5.dpbs

Babasha wrote on 2025-04-27, 11:43:

Rendition Verité V1000 - Creative 3D Blaster PCI - https://vintage3d.org/verite1.php#sthash.kkGfrWqZ.dpbs

Added, thank you.

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Reply 7 of 18, by Babasha

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Matrox MGA-2064 - Matrox Millenium
Matrox MGA IS-ATHENA - Matrox Impression Plus

Need help? Begin with photo and model of your hardware 😉

Reply 8 of 18, by marxveix

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12. ATI Rage II (CIF, D3D, OpenGL)

Rage2 does not have hardware OpenGL support.

30+ MiniGL/OpenGL Win9x files for all Rage3 cards: Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 9 of 18, by anakin94

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Babasha wrote on 2025-04-27, 17:24:

Matrox MGA-2064 - Matrox Millenium

What API does it use?

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Reply 11 of 18, by anakin94

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Babasha wrote on 2025-04-27, 18:37:

Yes but it's not mentioned in the topic or i don't see it.

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Reply 12 of 18, by Ozzuneoj

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anakin94 wrote on 2025-04-27, 09:24:
Hi, i want to make a list about 3D compatible video cards which don't have a graphic chip in a BGA package. If you want to help, […]
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Hi,
i want to make a list about 3D compatible video cards which don't have a graphic chip in a BGA package.
If you want to help, please provide cards name with APIs and rank them with the performance.
Also please report errors.
Thanks.

1. 3Dfx Voodoo² (D3D, Glide, OpenGL)
2. 3Dfx Voodoo Graphics (D3D, Glide, OpenGL)
3. 3Dfx Voodoo Rush (D3D, Glide, OpenGL)
4. NEC PowerVR PCX2 (D3D, OpenGL, PowerSGL)
5. Trident Blade 3D (D3D, OpenGL)
6. ATI Rage Pro aka XPERT@Play/Work (CIF, D3D, OpenGL)
7. NEC PowerVR PCX1 (D3D, OpenGL, PowerSGL)
8. S3 Trio3D/2X (D3D, S3D)
9. S3 Trio3D (D3D, S3D)
10. Canopus Total3D - V1000L-P (D3D, OpenGL)
11. Creative 3D Blaster PCI - V1000-E (CGL, D3D, OpenGL)
12. ATI Rage II (CIF, D3D)
13. Creative 3D Blaster VLB - GLINT 300SX (CGL, D3D, OpenGL)
14. S3 ViRGE/GX (D3D, S3D)
15. S3 ViRGE/DX (D3D, S3D)
16. S3 ViRGE/325 (D3D, S3D)
17. Matrox Impression Plus (Renderware 3D)

I think the Canopus Total3D and Creative 3D Blaster PCI on the list should just be changed to Rendition Vérité V1000, because there are multiple cards that use those chips and they all use the same non-BGA package.

As far as I can tell, the Sierra Scream'n 3D, Intergraph Intense3D 100 and Creative 3D Blaster PCI used the original V1000-E, while the Canopus Total3D Vérité and Miro miroCrystal VRX used the later revision V1000L-P (lower voltage and higher speed).

Unless you're planning to list every brand and model of the various Voodoo cards, I would just condense the Rendition Vérité V1000 to one entry.

EDIT: Also, regarding the Matrox Impression Plus I would list it as "Matrox Impression Plus - IS-ATHENA" because the IS-ATLAS and IS-ATHENA are, I believe, pin-compatible and may be found on very similar cards but only ATHENA offers 3D acceleration.

Some other additions:
Paradise Tasmania 3D - Yamaha YGV612 (2 games)
Matrox MGA Millennium - IS-STORM\MGA-2064W (1 game)
Nvidia NV1 - STG-2000

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Honestly, there are a ton of first generation (or pre-first generation if you want to think of them that way) cards to list. There are other threads with lists of really obscure early 3D-capable cards if we are including things that only accelerate one or two games. Most likely, anything made before 1996 will not be BGA.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 13 of 18, by marxveix

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Original Rage1 (ATi 3D Rage) should also fit, like Rage2 and Rage3.

ATi 3D Rage - Mach64 GT/264GT 3D Rage" - D3D / CIF
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/ati-mach64-gt.g184

ATi 3D Rage - https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/3d-rage.c3166

30+ MiniGL/OpenGL Win9x files for all Rage3 cards: Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 14 of 18, by anakin94

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-04-27, 19:48:
I think the Canopus Total3D and Creative 3D Blaster PCI on the list should just be changed to Rendition Vérité V1000, because th […]
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I think the Canopus Total3D and Creative 3D Blaster PCI on the list should just be changed to Rendition Vérité V1000, because there are multiple cards that use those chips and they all use the same non-BGA package.

As far as I can tell, the Sierra Scream'n 3D, Intergraph Intense3D 100 and Creative 3D Blaster PCI used the original V1000-E, while the Canopus Total3D Vérité and Miro miroCrystal VRX used the later revision V1000L-P (lower voltage and higher speed).

Unless you're planning to list every brand and model of the various Voodoo cards, I would just condense the Rendition Vérité V1000 to one entry.

EDIT: Also, regarding the Matrox Impression Plus I would list it as "Matrox Impression Plus - IS-ATHENA" because the IS-ATLAS and IS-ATHENA are, I believe, pin-compatible and may be found on very similar cards but only ATHENA offers 3D acceleration.

Some other additions:
Paradise Tasmania 3D - Yamaha YGV612 (2 games)
Matrox MGA Millennium - IS-STORM\MGA-2064W (1 game)
Nvidia NV1 - STG-2000

Thank you for your suggestion and infos.

marxveix wrote on 2025-04-27, 22:44:
Original Rage1 (ATi 3D Rage) should also fit, like Rage2 and Rage3. […]
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Original Rage1 (ATi 3D Rage) should also fit, like Rage2 and Rage3.

ATi 3D Rage - Mach64 GT/264GT 3D Rage" - D3D / CIF
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/ati-mach64-gt.g184

ATi 3D Rage - https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/3d-rage.c3166

Thanks, added.

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Reply 15 of 18, by bertrammatrix

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Cirrus Logic 5464/65 "Laguna 3d" - D3D
SiS 6326 - D3D, open gl (quake only)

The sis is a hair faster then a virge DX, and the Laguna is a hair faster then the sis.

Both of these are quite interesting. The Laguna uses RDRAM which was probably a first (and last?) in the graphics world. The SiS can use edo or sdram, and when in pci form is one of the most bus frequency tolerant graphics chips I've ever ran into, working fine from 25 right up to 66mhz.

Reply 16 of 18, by sdz

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Alliance ProMotion aT3D.

Reply 17 of 18, by Ozzuneoj

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Not sure if all of these have been covered or not, but there are some sites and threads dedicated to obscure 3D accelerators too:

Found this interesting comparison of (up to) 1996 3D graphics cards, chips, and accelerators

https://vintage3d.org/blog.php
(check the Reviews section)

https://vintage3d.org/others.php
(for some really rare and obscure cards\chips... some of which are non BGA)

Some examples I don't think have been listed:

Chromatic Mpact! (first one is BGA)

Trident T3D2000\T3D9692 (unreleased) and many many more ProVidia (some apparently did 3D?), Cyber, and 3DImage cards that followed... most of which can be found here, and you'll see that the majority are non BGA.

Accelgraphics AG300 (probably no texturing, but supports OpenGL 1.0, supposedly... I have one but haven't gotten around to installing NT and testing it out though)

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 18 of 18, by anakin94

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Added them.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-04-29, 05:30:
Not sure if all of these have been covered or not, but there are some sites and threads dedicated to obscure 3D accelerators too […]
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Not sure if all of these have been covered or not, but there are some sites and threads dedicated to obscure 3D accelerators too:

Found this interesting comparison of (up to) 1996 3D graphics cards, chips, and accelerators

https://vintage3d.org/blog.php
(check the Reviews section)

https://vintage3d.org/others.php
(for some really rare and obscure cards\chips... some of which are non BGA)

Some examples I don't think have been listed:

Chromatic Mpact! (first one is BGA)

Trident T3D2000\T3D9692 (unreleased) and many many more ProVidia (some apparently did 3D?), Cyber, and 3DImage cards that followed... most of which can be found here, and you'll see that the majority are non BGA.

Accelgraphics AG300 (probably no texturing, but supports OpenGL 1.0, supposedly... I have one but haven't gotten around to installing NT and testing it out though)

There are some interesting ones, thanks a lot.

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