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First post, by Zup

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I've been going through some disks that I had in USB 3.0 enclosures (they were all plain HDDs), and I found that:
- All of them didn't work. It seems that their power consuption is higher than some laptops can provide.
- After connecting them on a powered enclosure, they work but all of them ran hot (maybe lack of lubrication?).
- One of them developed read errors.

So, after salvaging everything I could, I put some SSDs in those enclosures. Reviewing the specs of the disks I found a line that said something like "Data retention (without power): 1 year". OK, I got it. If the disk is not used in a year, nobody guarantees that my data will be there. But how does it work?

I mean, on DRAM memories (the only analogy that I can think of) you need to "refresh" the RAM preiodically to avoid data corruption. How do you avoid data loss on SSD disks?
- It is enough to power them periodically to get the data refreshed?
- Maybe should I read the entire disk (i.e.: dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/null or running a SMART long test)?
- Or do I have to rewrite the entire contents?
- Does anybody had lost data because of letting it unpowered for a long time?
- Do "hybrid" (HDDs with SSD parts) disks suffer from same issues?

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Reply 1 of 2, by myne

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Reply 2 of 2, by DosFreak

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Spinning rust is magnetic, ssd is electrical.

Data retention depends on type of SSD, level of wear and ambient temperature. Most of the posts you see where people plug in an old ssd just talk about booting up an old OS or copying a couple of files. Don't think I've seen anything on comparing hashes of all files on a SSD powered off for a long time.

More than likely you'll be fine but you'll be better off with multiple drives, a filesystem that checksums your data, regular scrubs and testing of all drives, regular backups and off site storage. USB drives are not ideal.

You shouldn't have a drive that is powered off for a year in your backup plan unless that is part of your backup plan but if it is some drive you forgot about then you're doing it wrong.

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