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First post, by ruthan

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Hello,
i got this board, i never was in 386 stuff building, so i was sort of suprised that in this era board identification and manuals weren't that easy and brands did not advertised their brand, not even through some OEM data and maybe even manuals for boards werent sure thing.
I not have cpu and mem to run it right now, i far i found that i would need intel DX - 25 or 33 and at least 4 small simms - i found 1.

Found labels:
1) 386XO cache
Copyright 1990
85-04-0081

2) on the edge J12 - 2-3 for Rev .B & 64k cache

3) Backside 6022-1 small number, under is 9023 16 bigger numberm vertically there is this label - WTF -900303-02 ; WTF is nice..

4) On the bottom ISA slot is SP 002336 QA IJ and some red Asian symbol in Circle stamp and 79.8.24

Chipsets are managed by these 2 chips:
Opti 82C381+82C382 - what supposed to be chips for 25 or 33 MHz DX, on both is printed 25 MHz, im not sure if it does means that is limited 25 Mhz version of Intel 386DX or 33 MHz is possible and number is for cpu bus speed.
This chipset should support dividers 2/3/4.. so 4*8Mhz = 33 MHz should be possible.

Cache chips are these:
IS61C66-L15N - 15ns SRAM (extremely fast!), its good enough for 40 MHz.. its up to 66 MHz ; Ultra-fast 8K x 8 SRAM
M81C70A-35P - 35ns SRAM (also quite fast), its good enough for 40 MHz ; Fast 1K x 8 SRAM (possibly tag RAM)

Controller:
Chips p82c206 h 6058-j Japan, 9006 EAME

There is big ~132 long long under ram slots, probably some other cache.

Jumpers with labels are:
J14 - reset, J15 - Turbo; J 16 - Speaker, J17- Keylock.; JP 13 - could be monochrome / color jumper i found the same for similar board.

I looked here:
https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/386_Motherboards
https://th99.infania.net/m/m386_5.htm

for Opti MBs, found picture on all them on Retro web, but no match. Closest is novacor,-inc.-optimum:
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/novaco … um-386-25-33-40 // But it has 40 MHz CPU support and all ISA slots are long, i have 3 short on my board.

I mainly need some info about Jumpers / pin headers J1 to J13 + J18, there are not labels..

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Last edited by ruthan on 2025-12-01, 04:21. Edited 4 times in total.

Im old goal oriented goatman, i care about facts and freedom, not about egos+prejudices. Hoarding=sickness. If you want respect, gain it by your behavior. I hate stupid SW limits, SW=virtual world, everything should be possible if you have enough raw HW.

Reply 1 of 11, by ruthan

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Im old goal oriented goatman, i care about facts and freedom, not about egos+prejudices. Hoarding=sickness. If you want respect, gain it by your behavior. I hate stupid SW limits, SW=virtual world, everything should be possible if you have enough raw HW.

Reply 2 of 11, by Deunan

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WTF indeed. Not much of a help but your mobo at least looks similar to some 386WB clones, esp. that custom 32-bit memory expansion slot over the SIMM slots. Also OPTi chipset, but older than 386WB.

I would guess "386XO cache" is the name, probably a clone but then again clone makers rarely put a copyright on the mobo. Weird. I'm pretty sure the 25MHz stamp is the chipset upper limit and the mobo is kinda locked to it with that 50MHz clock generator. It can be replaced but probably won't work well if at all. Even the 386WB with 931+932 chipset has its issues at 33MHz (but mostly related to 387 and some BIOS options like slow refresh).

These OPTi chipsets require uncommon 4-bit TAGs so whatever you do try not to damage those. Hard to find parts these days. Quite a few of these jumpers are usually to configure the cache layout so best left alone. One or two closer to the chipset might control ISA divider - there might just be the jumper or both it and BIOS setting, and the jumper is to select the default speed before BIOS code can run and adjust that.

I'd start tracing the unknown jumpers, see what chips(s) these are connected to. Often that's enough to figure out what it does.

Reply 3 of 11, by wierd_w

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I'd want the AMI bios ID string that should splash the bottom of the screen during POST.

That should contain maker ID and datecode, among other useful things.

Reply 4 of 11, by Predator99

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There is no BIOS at all on your board 😉

You have to burn one with an image of a board with the same chipset.

Reply 5 of 11, by ruthan

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Ok i got info, that BIOS chip is missing and Bios chip there is only keyboard bios. So i would need to know that bios chip is needed and i also would need to flash bios through some programmer, but it would need to identify board.

Im old goal oriented goatman, i care about facts and freedom, not about egos+prejudices. Hoarding=sickness. If you want respect, gain it by your behavior. I hate stupid SW limits, SW=virtual world, everything should be possible if you have enough raw HW.

Reply 6 of 11, by Babasha

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Complete TRW list of OPTI 82C382 motherboards - https://theretroweb.com/motherboards?page=1&i … tIds%5B0%5D=366

Just find most closest for your with same same chips OPTI 82C381/382 and CHIPS 82C206 and download BIOS

https://theretroweb.com/motherboards?page=1&i … tIds%5B0%5D=366 - as variant
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/unknown-opti-386 - one more and more
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/tmc-my … egastar-pat38pc
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/unitron-u5917b-v2

Need help? Begin with photo and model of your hardware 😉

Reply 7 of 11, by Predator99

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I also see a battery damage around the keyboard connector, also on the bottom side. I would be surprised if the board starts without fixing some traces.

Reply 8 of 11, by ruthan

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Ok thanks, i will try at least, its better than throw it to garbage right away.
What new bios chip and programmer i would need for bios?

I already checked that retroweb list there is not exact much, because my board has 3 short ISA slots at the bottom. Im not sure what much search for after what is important to make bios running and what does not.
Except that secondary Chips, its about number of memory slots or cache slots, has number of cache banks have to same or something else?

Like 1/4 of these board has the same Chips P82C206 H chip (some H1 or without additional letter), some pictures are not detailed enough, i know there is often manual or chip chart, but as lest these have that
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/aten-i … td-opb-003c-009
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/auva-c … 33-o0-m317000-3
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/chicon … -ch-386-25d-33a
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/octek-pointer
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/tmc-my … egastar-pat38pd
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/tmc-my … p-mynix-pat38pi

Some other hints point to some Mynix board, but i far from to be sure.

Im old goal oriented goatman, i care about facts and freedom, not about egos+prejudices. Hoarding=sickness. If you want respect, gain it by your behavior. I hate stupid SW limits, SW=virtual world, everything should be possible if you have enough raw HW.

Reply 9 of 11, by SSTV2

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This will most likely be a board made by the "Digicom" manufacturer, I have a 286 board with a very similar implementation, both in the way the model name is given and in the design, even the serial number sticker looks the same, except SP letters are replaced by CM.

Board: https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/digicom-digis-286v

Reply 10 of 11, by MikeSG

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BIOS doesn't need to be an exact match to the board layout. The Opti chipset and Chips P82C206 needs to match, and the cache setup primarily.

The 35ns cache chips limits the CPU speed to 25MHz. You need at least 20ns cache for a 40MHz CPU.

If you're hellbent on a 40MHz setup, you'd need to find and desolder/resolder the two large Opti chips with 40Mhz versions, and find <= 20ns compatible cache chips or make a PCB interposer so you can use more common chips.

BIOS can be programmed with a TL866-3G. Software is called Xgpro/XGecu Pro and can be downloaded without having the programmer.
BIOS chip can be any "27C512" chip, such as Winbond W27C512.

Damage around the battery:
That's as bad as the damage I had on a similar board.
There were broken traces under the keyboard connector, keyboard BIOS, and other chips nearby. Capacitors near the power connector were bad. Questionable lines under the nearest ISA slot. It still doesn't work today...

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Reply 11 of 11, by wierd_w

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If that's the case, might look for an MR Bios for that chipset&cache setup, so that there are lots of knobs to turn.