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First post, by Marco

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Dear all,

I am searching for quite a while for an answer but I couldn’t find any proof for a „yes“.

All my tested PATA CF cards do support max. 2 sectors per read. That’s far away from 16 (Isa) or 128 (vlb) which hdds do support.

So my question: is anyone aware of such products?

Thank you

1) VLSI SCAMP 311 | 386SX25@TI486SXLC2-50@63 | 16MB | CL-GD5434 | CT2830| SCC-1 | MT32 | WDC160GB/7200/8MB | Fast-SCSI AHA 1542CF + BlueSCSI v2/15k U320
2) SIS486 | 486DX/2 66(@80) | 32MB | TGUI9440 | LAPC-I

Reply 1 of 15, by NeoG_

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How can this be tested? I would say that the fastest way to get an answer is to make it easy for people with CF cards to check and report their results

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Reply 3 of 15, by douglar

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I have some kingston SSD devices that do 16 blocks per interrupt through a jmicron sata pata bridge.

download/file.php?id=231189&mode=view

download/file.php?id=231243&mode=view

Works well with PIO and UDMA. Doesn’t work with MWDMA for me, even though it reports it as a viable mode.

Reply 4 of 15, by Marco

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Dear all,

This is when you noticed you get old. Sorry for the double post and thanks for the answer and the hint.
The answer shows one way to identify it. Hdat2, MHDD would be another way I’m aware of or via XTIDE large bios routine.

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1) VLSI SCAMP 311 | 386SX25@TI486SXLC2-50@63 | 16MB | CL-GD5434 | CT2830| SCC-1 | MT32 | WDC160GB/7200/8MB | Fast-SCSI AHA 1542CF + BlueSCSI v2/15k U320
2) SIS486 | 486DX/2 66(@80) | 32MB | TGUI9440 | LAPC-I

Reply 5 of 15, by Marco

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I couldn’t find any datasheet for that ssdnow model but for other kingstons: no remarks about that topic in the specs.
So you seem to be lucky here.

1) VLSI SCAMP 311 | 386SX25@TI486SXLC2-50@63 | 16MB | CL-GD5434 | CT2830| SCC-1 | MT32 | WDC160GB/7200/8MB | Fast-SCSI AHA 1542CF + BlueSCSI v2/15k U320
2) SIS486 | 486DX/2 66(@80) | 32MB | TGUI9440 | LAPC-I

Reply 6 of 15, by douglar

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Marco wrote on 2025-12-03, 12:30:

I couldn’t find any datasheet for that ssdnow model but for other kingstons: no remarks about that topic in the specs.
So you seem to be lucky here.

The KINGSTON SNS4151S316GD was likely an OEM product for chrome books and those Windows 10s laptops that didn't catch on back in the 201x's. Probably was never available for retail. Someone sold me a bag of them for cheap back in the covid lock down days. I couldn't pass that up. I'll pull the sticker off one and get you the controller and flash info tonight.

Reply 8 of 15, by Marco

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Great thanks

1) VLSI SCAMP 311 | 386SX25@TI486SXLC2-50@63 | 16MB | CL-GD5434 | CT2830| SCC-1 | MT32 | WDC160GB/7200/8MB | Fast-SCSI AHA 1542CF + BlueSCSI v2/15k U320
2) SIS486 | 486DX/2 66(@80) | 32MB | TGUI9440 | LAPC-I

Reply 9 of 15, by Marco

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All,

On top of the recommendations here I could find one SSD to support 16 block transfer: intel 520.

Please find reference here: https://www.thomas-krenn.com/de/wiki/Intel_520_Series_SSDs

1) VLSI SCAMP 311 | 386SX25@TI486SXLC2-50@63 | 16MB | CL-GD5434 | CT2830| SCC-1 | MT32 | WDC160GB/7200/8MB | Fast-SCSI AHA 1542CF + BlueSCSI v2/15k U320
2) SIS486 | 486DX/2 66(@80) | 32MB | TGUI9440 | LAPC-I

Reply 10 of 15, by douglar

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Thats a LSI SandForce SF-2281 Controller

https://www.storagereview.com/review/intel-ssd-520-review

He has other ssd’s listed in his site with multi sector transfer > 1

https://www.thomas-krenn.com/de/wiki/Intel_320_Series_SSDs

https://www.thomas-krenn.com/de/wiki/Intel_E_ … 00S_Series_SSDs

Reply 11 of 15, by Marco

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Thanks for the update. I referred to his smartctrl screenshot on that particular 520 ssd. Seems like a proof. I will double check this set up as seen as I have my iord16 pcb in place.

Intel seems to have „improved“ their firmware with that controller in contrary to other vendors

1) VLSI SCAMP 311 | 386SX25@TI486SXLC2-50@63 | 16MB | CL-GD5434 | CT2830| SCC-1 | MT32 | WDC160GB/7200/8MB | Fast-SCSI AHA 1542CF + BlueSCSI v2/15k U320
2) SIS486 | 486DX/2 66(@80) | 32MB | TGUI9440 | LAPC-I

Reply 12 of 15, by douglar

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Found another. The Liteon LSS-16L6G-HP reports that it can also do 16 sectors per interrupt but for some reason was only doing 8 under MR Bios.

Reply 13 of 15, by Marco

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Thanks again.
Are you aware of any CF Card with this Feature?

Regards

1) VLSI SCAMP 311 | 386SX25@TI486SXLC2-50@63 | 16MB | CL-GD5434 | CT2830| SCC-1 | MT32 | WDC160GB/7200/8MB | Fast-SCSI AHA 1542CF + BlueSCSI v2/15k U320
2) SIS486 | 486DX/2 66(@80) | 32MB | TGUI9440 | LAPC-I

Reply 14 of 15, by douglar

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Marco wrote on Yesterday, 21:00:

Thanks again.
Are you aware of any CF Card with this Feature?

Regards

I have some INNODISK iCF 4000 Industrial 4GB CF cards that support a max block size of 2.

I don't recommend them. They are not very good performers and the compatibility with retro computers ranges between "very fussy" to "don't bother".

Reply 15 of 15, by Marco

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I have exactly the same and understand your opinion

1) VLSI SCAMP 311 | 386SX25@TI486SXLC2-50@63 | 16MB | CL-GD5434 | CT2830| SCC-1 | MT32 | WDC160GB/7200/8MB | Fast-SCSI AHA 1542CF + BlueSCSI v2/15k U320
2) SIS486 | 486DX/2 66(@80) | 32MB | TGUI9440 | LAPC-I