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First post, by ndstudio

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Hey all,

I am having limited success getting Windows 98 SE running on a somewhat modern PC (specs below) using the standard method of installation.

Specs
Motherboard - Asus Z97M-Plus
CPU - Intel Core i7-4790K
Ram - 8gb DDR3 RAM (single stick)
Hard Drive - 128 SSD (32gb partition)

PCI Bus
GPU - VooDoo3 3000 PCI (set as primary GPU in BIOs)
Audio - Terratec Promedia TTSOLO1-N Ver 1.1 PCI (ESS Solo-1)

PCI-E Bus
USB - Startech VIA 6212 USB 2.0
GPU - nVidia GeForce GT 730 4G GK208 (for booting into other systems like XP and Win10 and etc)

I am able to get everything setup and successfully boot into Windows 98 SE using the Patchmem patch. However, after the installation I need to install the various PCI cards and this is where I am having issues. Basically after manually installing the PCI Bus in device manager and restarting the computer all I see is a blinking cursor. Going into Safe mode and removing the PCI Bus fixes the issue. I have tried installing the Loew SATA patch but this didn't change anything. I am only able to gain access into Windows 98 SE by removing the PCI Bus device in the device manager...

Other installation methods like the Quickinstall work just fine. So I know its possible to install Windows 98 SE with the PCI Bus working with my hardware.

The obvious question is, (why don't I just use the Quickinstall method). The reason why I'd like to get Windows 98 SE installed the standard way is to both have the full copy of Windows 98 SE installed and to test an issue I have with the Terretec TTSOLO1-N audio card. I have another thread open about this issue here -> Re: ESS Solo-1 Wavetable Header No Sound - Win98 - es1938s, basically this issue deals with the drivers not adding the "AuxB" slider to the mixer so I am unable to hear any playback from the Wavetable daughterboard. So I'd like to see if a full installation of Windows 98 SE with everything intact would fix this weird issue.

Anyways, any help with this would be greatly appreciated. I feel that I have gotten so close to getting everything running smoothly.

Reply 1 of 4, by ott

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Hi, check Gelip's posts - maybe this is your case (wrong PCIe-PCI bridge, PCI Latency or Win9x RAM patch)
Re: Sound Blaster Live! CT4830 on Sandy Bridge motherboard - sound problem
Win95 on Haswell, 8 GB RAM - error Insufficient memory...

I also noticed that on mobos with PCIe-PCI bridge, some PCI cards only work on 1st PCI slot (Primary PCI). If both PCI cards require Primary slots, they probably won't work together on that mobos.

Reply 2 of 4, by ndstudio

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Thanks for the links!

What confuses me is that everything works great when using the Quickinstall (except for the wavetable daughterboard audio issue)... So I shouldn't have to change anything with BIO's or remove any PCI cards because the Quickinstall works as is.

I might try reinstalling Windows 98 SE and after manually installing the PCI Bus I only accept one PCI component installation at a time until the OS breaks.

Reply 3 of 4, by onethirdxcubed

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Try installing windows without ACPI using the "SETUP /P I" command (that's a capital I as in Icecream not L). Also try the CREGFIX patch which zeros out some PCI configuration registers that may be left from the BIOS.

Alternatively you can try JHRobotics' Patcher9x which now integrates RAM size fix, page table invalidation fix for modern CPUs and I think CREGFIX as well. This has to be run from the boot disk or from DOS mode after the first restart from setup.

Reply 4 of 4, by ndstudio

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After running the Patcher9x and restarting I get a black screen and the text "win.com: reset CR0-CR4 + MSR". Any ideas on what this is?

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