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First post, by JustJulião

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An old and barely documented Olivetti, which I believe is the Augustus 133, stopped booting from one day to the next.

After I found it, I powered it using another PSU (the main one doesn’t start when it’s still hot). With the replacement PSU, it worked perfectly and seemed stable. I was able to reinstall Windows 95 and boot on it.

One day, it suddenly got stuck at IDE detection.
See video : https://photos.app.goo.gl/v5kABAtTW9zjRFeo6

What I tried without any results:

- CMOS reset
- swapping RAM (both sticks and slots)
- changing the HDD
- setting the floppy drive or CD-ROM drive as the first boot device with a bootable media
- replacing the CMOS battery
- disconnecting the other IDE device (the CD-ROM drive) which is on the other channel, and disabling the related IDE channel; tried this with both IDE channels
- installing a PCI IDE controller (Ultra ATA/100): the PCI card does its job and detects the drive correctly in its own BIOS, but then it returns to the motherboard’s BIOS prompt (F1 to enter setup / Esc to boot), and I’m still stuck at the same point.

If anyone has ever run into this type of IDE-detection freeze on older systems, I’d really appreciate any ideas on what else I could try.

Reply 1 of 6, by NeoG_

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I don't think it's freezing at IDE detection, that part is done at the point where it complains about the time and date not being set. Assuming you also can't press F1 to go into the BIOS settings and set the date/time, it may need the bios re-flashed due to age.

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Reply 2 of 6, by JustJulião

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NeoG_ wrote on 2025-12-08, 00:23:

I don't think it's freezing at IDE detection, that part is done at the point where it complains about the time and date not being set. Assuming you also can't press F1 to go into the BIOS settings and set the date/time, it may need the bios re-flashed due to age.

Thank you for helping. You’re probably right that the freeze doesn’t actually happen during IDE detection.
I can actually access the BIOS setup by pressing F1, and the settings page loads normally. The date/time error appears only because I recorded the video right after clearing the CMOS.
I’m keeping the BIOS reflash in mind, but I’ll only try it once I’ve exhausted everything else, since I don’t have an EPROM programmer and the BIOS for this system would probably be extremely hard to find.

Reply 3 of 6, by JustJulião

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In the end, it was... a capacitor. I spotted it with a thermal camera because it wasn't swollen at all, but it was hot.
It's strange because the behavior was always the same, freezing at the same moment, whether hot or cold. And shortly after I was able to install Windows 95. I've never seen a capacitor cause this kind of problem.
Maybe it was something else I fixed by manipulating the motherboard, because it doesn't look like a capacitor problem.
In any case, it's running perfectly! Now I'm going to open up the original power supply and see what I can do.
Maybe I should dump the BIOS and send a photo of the motherboard to Theretroweb because there doesn't seem to be anything about it on the Internet.

Reply 4 of 6, by Señor Ventura

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JustJulião wrote on 2025-12-11, 09:29:

In the end, it was... a capacitor.

I was thinking about it, although not so sure since your list of solutions covers practically the most important things to boot properly.

That date and keyboard issue, sounds something phisically, and if it's not the battery...

Reply 5 of 6, by zb10948

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Hello Juliao,

That is not an old Olivetti as Olivetti stopped producing custom machines and went full generic OEM a few years after the release of that one. And it shouldn't be undocumented, it's a common slim box.
What is the exact board model, e.g. BAxxxx? You should have stickers on the board indicating so. The board looks like Trigem Milano/Torino apart from the positioning of RAM slots, which is in your case much more accessible, allowing RAM insertion without removing the top case bridge.

Reply 6 of 6, by JustJulião

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zb10948 wrote on 2025-12-11, 12:03:

Hello Juliao,

That is not an old Olivetti as Olivetti stopped producing custom machines and went full generic OEM a few years after the release of that one. And it shouldn't be undocumented, it's a common slim box.
What is the exact board model, e.g. BAxxxx? You should have stickers on the board indicating so. The board looks like Trigem Milano/Torino apart from the positioning of RAM slots, which is in your case much more accessible, allowing RAM insertion without removing the top case bridge.

Yes I meant "old" generally speaking, not for an Olivetti.
Even if most topics are about old PCs here anyway.
I didn't dig too deep, but I tried to find the motherboard by BAxxxx. It's the BA2324.
I didn't succeed.
The commercial model name is Augustus 133 SL.
Although the chassis resembles common Olivetti models (which I also have), this one has a different facade from most.
I also tried to find the motherboard based on its characteristics on Theretroweb:
Socket 7, 430tx (by the looks of it), integrated ATi Mach64.
No luck.

EDIT: chipset is a i430HX.

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