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First post, by Yancakes

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I have searched google for the last hour and a half, I have found a couple threads here and on reddit (and a few VERY old web entries on top of that) but they were about Windows 98 mostly; the ones about Windows 95 had information that was not accurate to my own situation, potentially because I'm using a slightly more modern mobo than discussed in those threads? Not sure.

I have an ASUS P5A mobo, with an AMD K6-2. I have Windows 95 installed on it. Funnily enough, when I first set this computer up I was using Windows 98 (a memory patched, quick install version) to troubleshoot before switching to Windows 95. All the hardware is the same, but on that install it DID, on shut down, give me the "It's now safe to turn off your computer" message.

In Windows 95, however, that is not happening. Yes, I want to do it purely for nostalgia - I did it for 5+ years in my youth, I wanna do it again. It felt nice doing it for the brief window that Win98 was on this computer.

The BIOS does not seem to have the relevant settings. It is an ACPI enabled mobo, but I understand that Windows 95 does not support ACPI (as per a previous thread on Vogons). There is a power management setup section in the BIOS options, but there does not seem to be any relevant shut down options - reading the power management setup section in the manual (found on theretroweb) was not enlightening to me. I included a picture from the manual as an image attatched to this post - it's not my fault it's such a crappy image, that's how it was in the manual 🤣

I find APM settings in Control Panel> System>Device Manager>Advanced Power Management settings - I have the option to enable or disable power management support, and within my options are "Force APM 1.0 mode", "Disable Intel SL support" and "Disable power status polling". Disabling power management support does not seem to do anything. There is no power option in control panel itself - I have learned that this is a thing depending on setup when I installed Windows 95 but it doesn't sound like it would be super helpful anyways.

Anyways, sorry for the overly verbose question, hopefully someone can help me 😀

Reply 1 of 20, by PARKE

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Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-12, 04:31:

I have an ASUS P5A mobo, with an AMD K6-2. I have Windows 95 installed on it. Funnily enough, when I first set this computer up I was using Windows 98 (a memory patched, quick install version) to troubleshoot before switching to Windows 95. All the hardware is the same, but on that install it DID, on shut down, give me the "It's now safe to turn off your computer" message.

The ["It's now safe to turn off your computer" message] belonged in the category computers that did not support software-initiated power-off. In other words computers with AT style power supplies that had to be shut down manually. Your ASUS P5A is from the ATX generation and shuts down automatically.

Reply 2 of 20, by wierd_w

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It's still possible to get on atx systems, if you forcibly disable ACPI on installation time.

Run setup with the '/p i' arguments.

Reply 4 of 20, by Yancakes

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PARKE wrote on 2025-12-12, 11:29:
Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-12, 04:31:

I have an ASUS P5A mobo, with an AMD K6-2. I have Windows 95 installed on it. Funnily enough, when I first set this computer up I was using Windows 98 (a memory patched, quick install version) to troubleshoot before switching to Windows 95. All the hardware is the same, but on that install it DID, on shut down, give me the "It's now safe to turn off your computer" message.

The ["It's now safe to turn off your computer" message] belonged in the category computers that did not support software-initiated power-off. In other words computers with AT style power supplies that had to be shut down manually. Your ASUS P5A is from the ATX generation and shuts down automatically.

When I had Win 98 installed it did it, though. So at least in 98 it's still possible to have active.

wierd_w wrote on 2025-12-12, 12:31:

It's still possible to get on atx systems, if you forcibly disable ACPI on installation time.

Run setup with the '/p i' arguments.

marxveix wrote on 2025-12-12, 13:27:

If you dont want acpi run setup.exe /p i
If you want acpi run setup.exe /p j

https://smallvoid.com/article/win9x-setup-switches.html

...this means I have to re-install, doesn't it?

Reply 5 of 20, by wierd_w

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Pretty much.

Sorry. 🙁

Reply 6 of 20, by Yancakes

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It's OK, thanks! I've kept a CD-RW that I keep adding stuff to as I need it with this computer, everything from the drivers and whatnot up to some smaller games and wallpapers - whenever I need something else I just add it to the CD, so even formatting and re-installing I should be back up and running to where I am in about an hour 😀

Thanks everyone for the help! I'll report back once I'm done!

Reply 7 of 20, by pixel_workbench

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I can enable the Orange Screen of Nostalgia on my Win98 system by just disabling APM in the bios. This is on a newer skt775 system with a Via chipset.

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Reply 8 of 20, by maxtherabbit

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Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-12, 16:33:
When I had Win 98 installed it did it, though. So at least in 98 it's still possible to have active. […]
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PARKE wrote on 2025-12-12, 11:29:
Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-12, 04:31:

I have an ASUS P5A mobo, with an AMD K6-2. I have Windows 95 installed on it. Funnily enough, when I first set this computer up I was using Windows 98 (a memory patched, quick install version) to troubleshoot before switching to Windows 95. All the hardware is the same, but on that install it DID, on shut down, give me the "It's now safe to turn off your computer" message.

The ["It's now safe to turn off your computer" message] belonged in the category computers that did not support software-initiated power-off. In other words computers with AT style power supplies that had to be shut down manually. Your ASUS P5A is from the ATX generation and shuts down automatically.

When I had Win 98 installed it did it, though. So at least in 98 it's still possible to have active.

wierd_w wrote on 2025-12-12, 12:31:

It's still possible to get on atx systems, if you forcibly disable ACPI on installation time.

Run setup with the '/p i' arguments.

marxveix wrote on 2025-12-12, 13:27:

If you dont want acpi run setup.exe /p i
If you want acpi run setup.exe /p j

https://smallvoid.com/article/win9x-setup-switches.html

...this means I have to re-install, doesn't it?

no it doesn't

windows 95 doesn't support ACPI at all so the setup.exe /p stuff doesn't even apply at all (it's only for win98)

if you reinstall you're just wasting your time, it isn't ACPI that is facilitating win95 to power off your system automatically, it's APM

if you want to disable APM just turn it off in BIOS, simple as

Reply 9 of 20, by Yancakes

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maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-12-13, 01:41:
no it doesn't […]
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Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-12, 16:33:
When I had Win 98 installed it did it, though. So at least in 98 it's still possible to have active. […]
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PARKE wrote on 2025-12-12, 11:29:

The ["It's now safe to turn off your computer" message] belonged in the category computers that did not support software-initiated power-off. In other words computers with AT style power supplies that had to be shut down manually. Your ASUS P5A is from the ATX generation and shuts down automatically.

When I had Win 98 installed it did it, though. So at least in 98 it's still possible to have active.

wierd_w wrote on 2025-12-12, 12:31:

It's still possible to get on atx systems, if you forcibly disable ACPI on installation time.

Run setup with the '/p i' arguments.

marxveix wrote on 2025-12-12, 13:27:

If you dont want acpi run setup.exe /p i
If you want acpi run setup.exe /p j

https://smallvoid.com/article/win9x-setup-switches.html

...this means I have to re-install, doesn't it?

no it doesn't

windows 95 doesn't support ACPI at all so the setup.exe /p stuff doesn't even apply at all (it's only for win98)

if you reinstall you're just wasting your time, it isn't ACPI that is facilitating win95 to power off your system automatically, it's APM

if you want to disable APM just turn it off in BIOS, simple as

Where in BIOS 🤣 as I explain above, I can't find the settings in BIOS. There are power management settings but none are relevant to shut down and I couldn't find anything in the P5A manual about it.

Reply 10 of 20, by maxtherabbit

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Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-13, 06:08:
maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-12-13, 01:41:
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Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-12, 16:33:

When I had Win 98 installed it did it, though. So at least in 98 it's still possible to have active.

...this means I have to re-install, doesn't it?

no it doesn't

windows 95 doesn't support ACPI at all so the setup.exe /p stuff doesn't even apply at all (it's only for win98)

if you reinstall you're just wasting your time, it isn't ACPI that is facilitating win95 to power off your system automatically, it's APM

if you want to disable APM just turn it off in BIOS, simple as

Where in BIOS 🤣 as I explain above, I can't find the settings in BIOS. There are power management settings but none are relevant to shut down and I couldn't find anything in the P5A manual about it.

Power Management - Disable

Reply 11 of 20, by Yancakes

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maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-12-13, 13:48:
Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-13, 06:08:
maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-12-13, 01:41:
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no it doesn't

windows 95 doesn't support ACPI at all so the setup.exe /p stuff doesn't even apply at all (it's only for win98)

if you reinstall you're just wasting your time, it isn't ACPI that is facilitating win95 to power off your system automatically, it's APM

if you want to disable APM just turn it off in BIOS, simple as

Where in BIOS 🤣 as I explain above, I can't find the settings in BIOS. There are power management settings but none are relevant to shut down and I couldn't find anything in the P5A manual about it.

Power Management - Disable

Also as I mention above, it is disabled in bios. It is disabled in bios by default.

Reply 14 of 20, by darry

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Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-14, 03:22:
darry wrote on 2025-12-14, 03:18:

The power options is a choice made at install that I didn't know about, I don't have it. I recall reading a couple days ago that it's not something that can be added post install 🙁

Have you tried disabling APM (unchecking "Enable power management support") post install ?

Reply 15 of 20, by Yancakes

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darry wrote on 2025-12-14, 03:48:
Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-14, 03:22:
darry wrote on 2025-12-14, 03:18:

The power options is a choice made at install that I didn't know about, I don't have it. I recall reading a couple days ago that it's not something that can be added post install 🙁

Have you tried disabling APM (unchecking "Enable power management support") post install ?

Yes, it did nothing unfortunately.

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Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-14, 04:13:
darry wrote on 2025-12-14, 03:48:
Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-14, 03:22:

The power options is a choice made at install that I didn't know about, I don't have it. I recall reading a couple days ago that it's not something that can be added post install 🙁

Have you tried disabling APM (unchecking "Enable power management support") post install ?

Yes, it did nothing unfortunately.

Ack, thank you for sharing the unfortunately negative result.

Reply 17 of 20, by marxveix

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Someone mentionede that ACPI is not supported, why it does not give error at
those commands then? I alaways install Win95 and Win98 @ setup.exe /p j /is

Both have : ACPI Power save mode partly supported (except of Suspend to Disk)
https://www.operating-system.org/betriebssyst … sh/bs-win95.htm
https://www.operating-system.org/betriebssyst … sh/bs-win98.htm

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Reply 18 of 20, by maxtherabbit

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Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-14, 02:51:
maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-12-13, 13:48:
Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-13, 06:08:

Where in BIOS 🤣 as I explain above, I can't find the settings in BIOS. There are power management settings but none are relevant to shut down and I couldn't find anything in the P5A manual about it.

Power Management - Disable

Also as I mention above, it is disabled in bios. It is disabled in bios by default.

It's not disabled in your screenshot. In the attached image it is set to "user define"

Reply 19 of 20, by H3nrik V!

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maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-12-15, 14:02:
Yancakes wrote on 2025-12-14, 02:51:
maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-12-13, 13:48:

Power Management - Disable

Also as I mention above, it is disabled in bios. It is disabled in bios by default.

It's not disabled in your screenshot. In the attached image it is set to "user define"

I understood that that wasn't an actual screenshot, but an image from the manual, and not what OP had in their BIOS.

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