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First post, by ChrieMIsc

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Longtime lurker, first time poster, huge 40 something retro PC nerd here.

I saw this on eBay and have never seen anything like it. I googled and couldn’t find anything. CPU Shack doesn’t list it on his website either. Does anyone here have any information?

I’ve been under the impression that the only socket 8 upgrade was the Intel branded overdrive CPU that would bring a Pentium Pro to 300 or 333 MHz.

This one has a 766/66 Celeron in the socket. I’m stumped. What is this thing? Is it worth the 200 bucks someone paid?

https://ebay.us/m/bE1Evj

Reply 1 of 9, by Beerfloat

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I don't have any socket 8 stuff anymore but if I did I'd have been all over that. These interposers taking systems where they were never supposed to go are *chef's kiss* - so much fun!

Speaking here as someone who so far has collected 3 socket 5 Powerleaps and an Evergreen along with a socket 4 Pentium Overdrive. And a bunch of POD/Evergreen/PNY/Trinity Works stuff for 486 sockets. And just about anything that can fit in a 386 socket.

Reply 2 of 9, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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More info at... https://web.archive.org/web/20010417093637/ht … rformaprowp.asp

Old webshop pricing... https://web.archive.org/web/20010410193954/ht … pgrades_12.html

Install diskette... https://web.archive.org/web/20010106211100/ht … ormaproinst.asp

The attachment performapro.exe is no longer available

Reply 4 of 9, by maxtherabbit

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Yeah I'd say it was well worth the ~$190. These are super rare

Reply 5 of 9, by ChrieMIsc

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Thanks everyone. This is a super cool piece. I’d love to see some benchmarks. No doubt the CPU is hindered by PCI and EDO RAM, however, I’m thinking it must be several times faster than a 200Mhz Pentium Pro and still much faster than the PDOP333.

Any idea if the 766 Celeron could be swapped with a P3 or faster Celeron?

Reply 6 of 9, by andrea

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I'll hijack the thread just a little bit, but I swear I'm still almost in-topic.
It's now common knowledge that Coppermine CPUs need at least a 440EX or newer chipset to work. On LX and (supposedly) very early i810 everything goes very wrong very quickly as soon as the first instruction involving SSE is run.
How does the 440FX behave when running a Coppermine?

Reply 7 of 9, by ChrieMIsc

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andrea wrote on Yesterday, 19:30:

I'll hijack the thread just a little bit, but I swear I'm still almost in-topic.
It's now common knowledge that Coppermine CPUs need at least a 440EX or newer chipset to work. On LX and (supposedly) very early i810 everything goes very wrong very quickly as soon as the first instruction involving SSE is run.
How does the 440FX behave when running a Coppermine?

Not hijacking at all. Trying to learn as much about this chip as possible and you bring up some valid concerns. Thanks.

Reply 8 of 9, by rmay635703

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ChrieMIsc wrote on Yesterday, 18:49:

Thanks everyone.
Any idea if the 766 Celeron could be swapped with a P3 or faster Celeron?

Finding one with a high enough multiplier to “perform similarly “ while being compatible with that generation socket is likely small.

So yes you can but also probably not as useful as you would think

Reply 9 of 9, by andrea

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On a good platform (say BX/815/694) the celeron 766/66 should perform about the same as a P3 600/100 more or less.
The "best" upgrade on the upgrade could be (let's ignore the socket differences for now) a Celeron 1400/100/256 that would run at 933 Mhz with the 66Mhz bus.
Maybe 1.change GHz if you can overclock the bus to 75.
But why though? The 440FX platform would be bottlenecking hard a 533A already.