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First post, by Virtue

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So I was trying to repair a SATA connector, sadly the wires were literally fraying out (I could see copper at the connecting end), so I tried to remove the SATA pins to no avail, I ended up destroying the port 😒 I want to convert it to Molex anyway, the wires are correctly bunched together, but I dont want to destroy a spare molex port trying to get this to work plus I'm not sure if the way I've bunched the wires is safe due to resistance? Should I just chuck the power supply (its fairly old anyway) and not risk it? Or does anyone have a way I could turn this into a Molex connector without burning down my flat?

Reply 2 of 8, by MagefromAntares

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Hi,

The SATA power connector and MOLEX have the same voltages (SATA can also have 3.3 Volts, but that doesn't matter when converting SATA power to MOLEX), so it will most likely work, do note that MOLEX has a higher amperage limit than SATA power does, but it shouldn't matter as long as you connect consumer grade equipment to it, as those usually are well within this amperage limit.

How safe it is I think depends more on the quality of the PSU in question, if it has proper overvoltage, overcurrent and short protections then I personally wouldn't mind doing this if I needed an extra MOLEX connector, but if I wouldn't trust this PSU then I wouldn't do this as if a short or overvoltage happens this hacked bunch of wires might be the first to go, and in extreme cases it might actually result in a fire hazard. (However if these feature are not present in the PSU then arguably it wouldn't be safe to use even without the MOLEX modification)

One thing I do have to note, is that if the unlikely event of a fire do occur, and the insurance company decides to do an investigation and they find this near the source of the fire they might decide to not pay, even if the root cause of the issue is not the MOLEX replacement, but the quality issue of the PSU itself. I have a friend who is an actual Electrical Engineer, so officially accredited to work on electrical equipment, and had some custom circuitry in his house and then a completely unrelated electrical fire happened in his home and the insurance company decided to not to pay because of the custom circuitry being present even though it was literally not connected to the actual source of the fire in any way, and as I said he was actually officially allowed to work on electric equipment, he still had to go to court to get his insurance money and had to prove there that his electrical work had nothing to do with the fire.

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Reply 3 of 8, by momaka

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Virtue wrote on 2026-05-07, 19:54:

So I was trying to repair a SATA connector, sadly the wires were literally fraying out (I could see copper at the connecting end), so I tried to remove the SATA pins to no avail, I ended up destroying the port 😒 I want to convert it to Molex anyway, the wires are correctly bunched together, but I dont want to destroy a spare molex port trying to get this to work plus I'm not sure if the way I've bunched the wires is safe due to resistance? Should I just chuck the power supply (its fairly old anyway) and not risk it? Or does anyone have a way I could turn this into a Molex connector without burning down my flat?

I've seen a lot of "mods" like this over the years - some of them looking a lot more sketchy than yours. They've never been a problem, or at least not to the extent to cause a fire or anything near that bad. Worst case, they lost one of the voltage rails or ground and whatever was attached simply did not work anymore.

That's not to say it's OK to do hack jobs and think everything will be "fine". But when done with enough care, such mods are generally safe.

You seem to have twisted the wire pretty well together, so that already puts it in the better category. The only way to further improve (and I can't see from the pictures if you have already done that or not) is to solder the wires. Ultimately, this will make sure they can't get undone and also not allow the connections to go weak over time. The biggest problem with wires being twisted together - especially copper ones - is that they can tarnish / oxidize with air moisture, and that tends to degrade the connection. (On a side tangent here, I still don't get why this crap is still allowed in US electric codes for house wiring. I opened a few twisted connection "nodes" in my former home and found out quite a few were making really poor connection after 30 years. A few even had signs of the wires overheating near the connection point. Needless to say, I cleaned/scraped all the wires and soldered them together.)

Now we are not dealing with any kinds of crazy currents or voltages here, at least in normal expected operation (i.e. 2-3 Amps max for an HDD or ODD), so even if the wires are not soldered, the resistance of the twisted wires should still be quite negligible. But even in the event of a short-circuit, the PSU should still shut down way before those wires and/or connections have a chance to melt.

Which brings us to the next point: the power supply itself.
As to what advice to give you on whether you should keep it or discard it, that depends entirely on the PSU itself and not so much its age.
Post a picture of the label so we can try to see who the manufacturer is.

As for the molex mod/addition, just make sure the wires are insulated well. Two layers of heatshrink tubing would be the proper way to do it. As for electrical tape - I find it suboptimal, mainly because some cheaper rolls of electrical tape tend to loosen or undo themselves over time, causing the wires to get exposed (also, not to mention how much I hate cleaning up sticky gunk/goo from electrical tape when I have to re-work something that was "held" together with electrical tape.) But if electrical tape is all you have, I suggest putting some masking/painting (paper) tape over it, as it tends to stick well to anything and doesn't have the tendency to undo itself over time. It will certainly make the hack job look even worse, though. 😜

MagefromAntares wrote on 2026-05-08, 01:51:

How safe it is I think depends more on the quality of the PSU in question, if it has proper overvoltage, overcurrent and short protections then I personally wouldn't mind doing this if I needed an extra MOLEX connector, but if I wouldn't trust this PSU then I wouldn't do this as if a short or overvoltage happens this hacked bunch of wires might be the first to go, and in extreme cases it might actually result in a fire hazard. (However if these feature are not present in the PSU then arguably it wouldn't be safe to use even without the MOLEX modification)

Short-circuit protection is standard even in the most gutless of PSUs. That said, I have seen a few really cheapo ones where it simply didn't work due to the molex and/or SATA wires being too thin to trigger it, resulting in the wires melting down. But like you said, if the PSU is that cheap/bad, then surely the hacked molex addition would be the last thing to worry about.

All in all, as long as the computer is housed in a proper case (that is, made of metal without over-usage of cheap flammable plastics... I'm looking at you HP and Dell), then even the wires melting together shouldn't result in anything too dangerous. Worst, you'll witness an "interesting" "smoke show" (I've had a cheapy PSU do that.)

MagefromAntares wrote on 2026-05-08, 01:51:

One thing I do have to note, is that if the unlikely event of a fire do occur, and the insurance company decides to do an investigation and they find this near the source of the fire they might decide to not pay, even if the root cause of the issue is not the MOLEX replacement, but the quality issue of the PSU itself.

True.
But then insurance companies will always try to weasel their way out of paying you, no matter what the cause was.
Not to turn the thread into a political discussion in regards to that, but house insurance really is a fucking scam in most cases (don't even get me started on renter's insurance or worse: home appliance insurance.) Then again, I don't live in a part of the world where anyone thinks it's normal to feed these scammers - at least from what I know, people rarely get house insurance in Eastern European countries like where I am. On that note, I'm surprised it's a thing in Hungary. Hate to be an ass here for saying this, but your EE friend really shouldn't be feeding those house insurance scammers.

Reply 4 of 8, by wierd_w

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Personally, I'd have just ordered a SATA to molex adapter off amazon, and called it a day...

Reply 5 of 8, by Virtue

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wierd_w wrote on 2026-05-10, 06:55:

Personally, I'd have just ordered a SATA to molex adapter off amazon, and called it a day...

The sata port itself was broken, plus I said I could see copper fraying from the base of the connector (due to the stress of the broken port - it was kept alive with electrical tape), i tried to fix it but ended up completely destroying the port, who knew SATA pins where so hard to remove?

Reply 6 of 8, by Virtue

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momaka wrote on 2026-05-10, 05:50:
I've seen a lot of "mods" like this over the years - some of them looking a lot more sketchy than yours. They've never been a pr […]
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Virtue wrote on 2026-05-07, 19:54:

So I was trying to repair a SATA connector, sadly the wires were literally fraying out (I could see copper at the connecting end), so I tried to remove the SATA pins to no avail, I ended up destroying the port 😒 I want to convert it to Molex anyway, the wires are correctly bunched together, but I dont want to destroy a spare molex port trying to get this to work plus I'm not sure if the way I've bunched the wires is safe due to resistance? Should I just chuck the power supply (its fairly old anyway) and not risk it? Or does anyone have a way I could turn this into a Molex connector without burning down my flat?

I've seen a lot of "mods" like this over the years - some of them looking a lot more sketchy than yours. They've never been a problem, or at least not to the extent to cause a fire or anything near that bad. Worst case, they lost one of the voltage rails or ground and whatever was attached simply did not work anymore.

That's not to say it's OK to do hack jobs and think everything will be "fine". But when done with enough care, such mods are generally safe.

You seem to have twisted the wire pretty well together, so that already puts it in the better category. The only way to further improve (and I can't see from the pictures if you have already done that or not) is to solder the wires. Ultimately, this will make sure they can't get undone and also not allow the connections to go weak over time. The biggest problem with wires being twisted together - especially copper ones - is that they can tarnish / oxidize with air moisture, and that tends to degrade the connection. (On a side tangent here, I still don't get why this crap is still allowed in US electric codes for house wiring. I opened a few twisted connection "nodes" in my former home and found out quite a few were making really poor connection after 30 years. A few even had signs of the wires overheating near the connection point. Needless to say, I cleaned/scraped all the wires and soldered them together.)

Now we are not dealing with any kinds of crazy currents or voltages here, at least in normal expected operation (i.e. 2-3 Amps max for an HDD or ODD), so even if the wires are not soldered, the resistance of the twisted wires should still be quite negligible. But even in the event of a short-circuit, the PSU should still shut down way before those wires and/or connections have a chance to melt.

Which brings us to the next point: the power supply itself.
As to what advice to give you on whether you should keep it or discard it, that depends entirely on the PSU itself and not so much its age.
Post a picture of the label so we can try to see who the manufacturer is.

As for the molex mod/addition, just make sure the wires are insulated well. Two layers of heatshrink tubing would be the proper way to do it. As for electrical tape - I find it suboptimal, mainly because some cheaper rolls of electrical tape tend to loosen or undo themselves over time, causing the wires to get exposed (also, not to mention how much I hate cleaning up sticky gunk/goo from electrical tape when I have to re-work something that was "held" together with electrical tape.) But if electrical tape is all you have, I suggest putting some masking/painting (paper) tape over it, as it tends to stick well to anything and doesn't have the tendency to undo itself over time. It will certainly make the hack job look even worse, though. 😜

MagefromAntares wrote on 2026-05-08, 01:51:

How safe it is I think depends more on the quality of the PSU in question, if it has proper overvoltage, overcurrent and short protections then I personally wouldn't mind doing this if I needed an extra MOLEX connector, but if I wouldn't trust this PSU then I wouldn't do this as if a short or overvoltage happens this hacked bunch of wires might be the first to go, and in extreme cases it might actually result in a fire hazard. (However if these feature are not present in the PSU then arguably it wouldn't be safe to use even without the MOLEX modification)

Short-circuit protection is standard even in the most gutless of PSUs. That said, I have seen a few really cheapo ones where it simply didn't work due to the molex and/or SATA wires being too thin to trigger it, resulting in the wires melting down. But like you said, if the PSU is that cheap/bad, then surely the hacked molex addition would be the last thing to worry about.

All in all, as long as the computer is housed in a proper case (that is, made of metal without over-usage of cheap flammable plastics... I'm looking at you HP and Dell), then even the wires melting together shouldn't result in anything too dangerous. Worst, you'll witness an "interesting" "smoke show" (I've had a cheapy PSU do that.)

MagefromAntares wrote on 2026-05-08, 01:51:

One thing I do have to note, is that if the unlikely event of a fire do occur, and the insurance company decides to do an investigation and they find this near the source of the fire they might decide to not pay, even if the root cause of the issue is not the MOLEX replacement, but the quality issue of the PSU itself.

True.
But then insurance companies will always try to weasel their way out of paying you, no matter what the cause was.
Not to turn the thread into a political discussion in regards to that, but house insurance really is a fucking scam in most cases (don't even get me started on renter's insurance or worse: home appliance insurance.) Then again, I don't live in a part of the world where anyone thinks it's normal to feed these scammers - at least from what I know, people rarely get house insurance in Eastern European countries like where I am. On that note, I'm surprised it's a thing in Hungary. Hate to be an ass here for saying this, but your EE friend really shouldn't be feeding those house insurance scammers.

Cheers mate, I am intending to solder the wires actually, just haven't gotten round to it yet as the molex connector I ordered hasn't arrive yet and I wanted to gauge how it would all fit together.

I'm in the UK so we have better circuit protection than the US (sorry! Its true), Im just worried about frying my period FDD and HDDs, I know they're really cheap to replace but its the originality im after. Also I have a pretty nice Socket 7 board I don't really want to destroy, I'm gonna test this on an old P4 board that I don't really care for (came from Dell PC so not really bothered) once I've gotten everything.

Also the electrical tape was just there to bunch the wires up so i dont confuse the black wires, it will be getting removed after 😀

Reply 7 of 8, by momaka

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Virtue wrote on 2026-05-10, 22:04:

Cheers mate, I am intending to solder the wires actually, just haven't gotten round to it yet as the molex connector I ordered hasn't arrive yet and I wanted to gauge how it would all fit together.

Sounds good.
Well, if you are worried more about damage to the hardware, again, the PSU itself might be the more worrisome part than whatever woI'verk you do.
So when you get to it again when the parts arrive, perhaps post a picture of the PSU's label... or better yet, pictures with its top cover removed. Only then we would be able to tell if the PSU is actually worth using or not. Some PSUs are, some aren't... or at least without more work/mods done to them (but that's a discussion for another time 😉 )

Virtue wrote on 2026-05-10, 22:04:

I'm in the UK so we have better circuit protection than the US (sorry! Its true)

Eh. It's about the same (I've lived in the US for 20 years and have a buddy who's lived in the UK for nearly as long.)
The bigger problem of both paces is the wooden houses.
I'll give you this though: at least your electric plugs have better design (in terms of safety) than the North American ones. They are huge and take a lot of space, though.

Reply 8 of 8, by Virtue

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Well it was a pretty cheap 500W PSU I bought about 10 years ago and has been in several PCs since I bought it with no problems.

I managed to fix it with the Molex head that arrived. Ran it for a few hours and had no issues 😀 the only annoying thing is its at a right angle now but the floppy header seems to work fine too. Thanks everyone for your concerns!