VOGONS


First post, by FeedingDragon

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When I was first building what I call my Voodoo system, I was designing it to multiboot into DOS/Windows 3.1 & Windows 98. It currently has 2 Voodoo 2 cards in SLI and a Voodoo 1 card, along with a Riva TNT2 graphics card. Have yet to find a need for Windows 3.1 drivers for Voodoo graphics (1 or 2,) but the main graphics card (currently TNT2,) needs the drivers to get full color support. I thought I was all set, except that I had the M64, or cheap, version of the TNT2 and have been planning to replace it eventually.

I recently acquired a game I had been looking for that runs on Windows 98. It requires "Hardware T&L" so will not work with my current setup. The TNT2 is one generation early. So, I'm currently looking for an AGP graphics card that supports Hardware T&L and has Windows 3.1 drivers that support full color (preferably both 16bit & 24bit modes.) So far, I've found the earliest cards that support HW T&L, though I'm fairly sure the list is not complete. The cards I've found are:

GeForce 256
Radeon DDR

Does anyone know if there are Windows 3.1 drivers that will work with these cards with full color support? Or of any AGP card with HW T&L that has Windows 3.1 drivers? The only other option I can come up with is to give up on dual booting, and build a separate DOS/Windows 3.1 system splitting my Voodoo 1 & Voodoo 2 SLI up. Would require sourcing quite a bit of extra equipment, and not sure I could ever afford it 🙁

p.s. I call it my Voodoo system because originally, it had a Voodoo 3 AGP as primary display. But after the card was physically damaged during a move, I decided to get a non-Voodoo card so I wouldn't be limited to 16bit graphics.

Feeding Dragon

Reply 2 of 4, by BinaryDemon

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If the generic driver supports the resolution and color depth you want, there's little reason not to go with that. Win3.1 videocard and drivers supported very little 2D hardware acceleration anyway. On my pocket386, I saw it was initially configured with the standard svga driver so I went thru the hassle of locating the correct cirrus logic driver, installed it and... no change. No performance improvement even in benchmarks, no additional resolutions or color depths available.

Reply 3 of 4, by FeedingDragon

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theelf wrote on 2026-05-30, 10:51:

Use a geforce FX and the vesa drivers, work fine

https://github.com/PluMGMK/vbesvga.drv

The last nvidia card wirh "decent" 3.1 drivers was the riva128

Do you know how it would work with any ATI cards? I'm Currently looking at a Radeon 7000.

BinaryDemon wrote on 2026-05-30, 11:08:

If the generic driver supports the resolution and color depth you want, there's little reason not to go with that. Win3.1 videocard and drivers supported very little 2D hardware acceleration anyway. On my pocket386, I saw it was initially configured with the standard svga driver so I went thru the hassle of locating the correct cirrus logic driver, installed it and... no change. No performance improvement even in benchmarks, no additional resolutions or color depths available.

With my current TNT2 card, the standard svga driver wouldn't go over 8bit (256 colors.) However, the NVidia drivers work just fine all the way up to 24bit.

Feeding Dragon

Reply 4 of 4, by theelf

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FeedingDragon wrote on 2026-05-30, 11:24:
Do you know how it would work with any ATI cards? I'm Currently looking at a Radeon 7000. […]
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theelf wrote on 2026-05-30, 10:51:

Use a geforce FX and the vesa drivers, work fine

https://github.com/PluMGMK/vbesvga.drv

The last nvidia card wirh "decent" 3.1 drivers was the riva128

Do you know how it would work with any ATI cards? I'm Currently looking at a Radeon 7000.

BinaryDemon wrote on 2026-05-30, 11:08:

If the generic driver supports the resolution and color depth you want, there's little reason not to go with that. Win3.1 videocard and drivers supported very little 2D hardware acceleration anyway. On my pocket386, I saw it was initially configured with the standard svga driver so I went thru the hassle of locating the correct cirrus logic driver, installed it and... no change. No performance improvement even in benchmarks, no additional resolutions or color depths available.

With my current TNT2 card, the standard svga driver wouldn't go over 8bit (256 colors.) However, the NVidia drivers work just fine all the way up to 24bit.

yes work with ati,but be aware ati cards in dos are not good