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First post, by soviet conscript

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Found this in my CPU collection. Does this look like an engineering sample to anyone? What's a good way to test it safely? Stick it in a Socket 7 board with the lowest multiplier settings?

Reply 1 of 5, by dionb

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Normally Intel Engineering Samples have "ES" on them somewhere. This looks more like a CPU where someone has intentionally sanded off any identifying features, which probably means they wanted to sell it as something it wasn't.

As for testing, the challenge is that it could be a Pentium (non-MMX) which wants single voltage i.e. 3.3Vcore, or a Pentium MMX which wants 2.8Vcore. Now the Pentium MMX was one of the most over-engineered chips ever and will almost certainly shrug off 3.3V and just work, but even so, better safe than sorry. So I'd suggest this order of settings:

1) assume Pentium MMX. Lowest multiplier is 2.0x, so set it to split voltage 2.8VCore, 2.0x and 50MHz FSB. If it's a Pentium MMX it should boot at 100MHz and you can then run Chkcpu or similar to identify. If it's a non-MMX it won't boot at this voltage.
2) if not, assume Pentium. Lowest multiplier is 1.5x, so set it to single voltage 3.3Vcore, 1.5x and 50MHz FSB. If it works at all, it should now boot at 75MHz and you can run Chkcpu.

Reply 2 of 5, by Trashbytes

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That code on the back tells us it was fabbed in the 4th week of 1997 in the Philippines which doesn't help us a lot since MMX was also released that year.

Reply 3 of 5, by Thandor

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I think it falls into the category ’Mechanical Sample’. These CPUs can be found in ‘The Journey Inside: The Computer’ its which were educational kits. So technically not meant as Mechanical Sample (which are used for socket testing and dimensions, they usually have no chip inside or at least non-functional) but it was the cheapest way to show what a CPU looks like.

The kit is an interesting piece of history. You can find both photo’s and video’s (a VHS was included) online. I believe they made 3 versions over the years. The batteries are also marvellous: they lost their juice after all those years but never leak 😀.

dionb wrote on 2026-08-17, 23:05:

Normally Intel Engineering Samples have "ES" on them somewhere. This looks more like a CPU where someone has intentionally sanded off any identifying features, which probably means they wanted to sell it as something it wasn't.

Usually they carry the name 'Intel Confidential' and instead of having a sSpec identification they have a Q-spec. So a Pentium 166 engineering sample can identify as Q135 whereas a production CPU can be SY016. Actually many socket 5 Pentiums carry an 'ES' marking on the bottom like 'MALAY ES' but this has nothing to do with engineering sample 😀.

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Reply 4 of 5, by SSTV2

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You can determine whether it's a regular P54C or a P55 (MMX) by measuring for continuity between I/O and Core power plane halves of the CPU, the P54C will have both power planes connected. The maximum operating clock frequency can be determined by operating CPU at approx. 60*C temp. and running Unreal castle flyby timedemo continuously, which is a pretty reliable real-world CPU stress test for those old systems. Sometimes it can take more than 20 loops for an unstable CPU to crash.

Reply 5 of 5, by zapbuzz

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I had one like that many many years ago i just played with the motherboard switches and jumpers until it worked however I forget how fast it was but being ceramic not the fastest.
It isn't a sample BTW more of a potato with its label removed to sell.
When used it will probably identify as pentium-s on post which means its a production version.