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First post, by MusicallyInspired

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Anyone hear of these? I don't know if it's in any way connected to RIAA or anything, but apparently it disallows you from burning an audio CD with this label. It's also interesting that on a copy protected audio cd there is no trademark industry standard "Digital Audio Compact Disc" logo anywhere. Meaning it's not a true audio cd as complies with the standard. I don't think many albums have been released on it but my favourite artist Mike Oldfield's album Tubular Bells 2003, unfortunately, was. Fortunately again, however, the Canadian release (where I reside) is a normal audio CD and not the copy protected version. Anywhere else where the album is sold seems to have this horrible release.

Apparently a copy protected audio cd (identifiable by it's "black sideways triangle inside a white circle" logo) does not play on all audio cd players and in some cases have even caused irreparable damage to the player. And even on the players they work on you can hear audible clicks and pops that are foreign to the original recording. When you pop it in a computer it will not detect any audio tracks and will instead launch a custom audio player which plays the tracks at a fraction of the quality of a true cd audio track (this is done obviously to keep people from recording and making high quality MP3s). Having a custom player also rules out support for a Mac, Linux, and other non-Windows OS's.

It's a horrible attempt to control piracy seeing as literally hours after Tubular Bells 2003 was released the tracks started popping up on P2P programs everywhere. They're also more of a hassle to get working on a player and even when/if you do you hear audible noises not part of the recording and it even causes damage! So the entire point of the whole idea was counter-productive; the piracy never stopped, and the majority of people who honestly went and bought these albums at their local store ended up being the ones who suffered seeing as they can't even enjoy their new product!

Here's a website with more information on it.

Heh, I like this quote from the page:

"'Copy protection' does not stop copyists. They will always find a way around it - the only way to stop somebody copying the music on a CD is to make it completely unplayable (unfortunately, this seems to be the direction the record company is going in)."

EDIT: Doing some research I found out that apparently putting these "audio discs" into an Apple computer can be a very bad idea. One person put a CPCD in their Apple CD-Rom and the computer froze entirely. And it wouldn't eject. Even after a reboot. Plus after the reboot they got simply a grey screen.

Honestly.....why would they even come up with this? It's obviously not going to stop pirates. It just makes life worse for the average music consumer! The companies even admit that it's still possible to make analog recordings into MP3s for personal MP3-player use and that they're not against copying for personal use (one record company said, anyway). So why do they make an "audio CD" that's near impossible to play on its own??

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Reply 1 of 5, by 5u3

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The computer magazine c't maintains a database of these "non-CDs" on their website, where potential buyers can search for incompatibilities before they waste money on an audio CD that doesn't work.

Although the interface is only available in German, it should be easy enough to use even if you don't know the language. And of course it only covers CDs released in Germany, but record companies seem to sell the same crap everywhere...

Here is the link: c´t CD-Register

Reply 2 of 5, by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman

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MusicallyInspired wrote:

When you pop it in a computer it will not detect any audio tracks and will instead launch a custom audio player which plays the tracks at a fraction of the quality of a true cd audio track

It sounds like typical enhanced (read: defected) audio CD that requires its own custom player, which may also infect your system with rootkit besides playing the CD track.

If that's the case, then the solution is pretty simple:

(1) disable Autoplay. In fact, I disable Autoplay all the time after the horrible experience with Moby's 18 B Sides album.

(2) get ISOBuster.

(3) insert the CD with Autoplay disabled.

(4) use ISOBuster to scan the defective audio CD. Typically, the scan will reveal two CD sessions. First session is where the custom player resides, while second session is hidden because it is where they put the audio tracks.

(5) extract the audio track with ISOBuster. Make a new audio CD from those track, and you can use the original CD as coaster. 😉

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Reply 3 of 5, by franpa

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'DragonForce: Inhuman Rampage' has protection on it, can't rip it to MP3 without it skipping/repeating parts of the song in the MP3 file that is made. The simple solution to it is to rip them as FLAC files via Winamp or something then convert from FLAC to MP3 (or keep them as FLAC if you like the better quality).

the cd also has a Enhanced Music Player which autoruns, no rootkits are found tho whenever i scan it with whatever rootkit tools i can find for free.

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Reply 4 of 5, by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman

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franpa wrote:

'DragonForce: Inhuman Rampage' has protection on it, can't rip it to MP3 without it skipping/repeating parts of the song in the MP3 file that is made. The simple solution to it is to rip them as FLAC files via Winamp or something then convert from FLAC to MP3 (or keep them as FLAC if you like the better quality).

Is it a multisession CD? Can you rip those track to .WAV with ISOBuster, and then convert it to MP3 afterwards?

franpa wrote:

the cd also has a Enhanced Music Player which autoruns, no rootkits are found tho whenever i scan it with whatever rootkit tools i can find for free.

Be careful still. I scanned Moby's 18 B-Sides album and found no rootkit either, but after inserting the CD, I just cannot play any audio CD anymore without being connected to the internet.

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Reply 5 of 5, by general_vagueness

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I've heard about those, I'd never buy one.
That reminds me of this.

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