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First post, by Arkay

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Hey folks, couldn't find any info about this on the main site or the forums, I'd appreciate if anyone knowing an answer could take the time to quickly jot it in here.

Is there a .ZIP version of the latest non-CVS DosBox available for download? Not that I have anything against the installer, but I personally like avoiding using windows installers whenever possible.

Thank you in advance for help.

P.S. oh, and just to preempt this type of answer, I've noticed that the older versions have the .ZIP versions available along with the original sources, but 0.72 is not. Thanks!

Reply 2 of 12, by ripsaw8080

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I understand the appeal of a plain archive, but I also think that NSIS is one of the least obtrusive and lowest-overhead (35kb) installers available.

FYI, 7-Zip can extract from NSIS installer executables as easily as any other archive format that it supports, so you can bypass the installer that way if you wish.

Reply 3 of 12, by Arkay

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Since I already have WinRAR installed, and don't want to install two unpackers (and the command line version of 7zip does not seem to support LZMA unpacking), I would greatly appreciate if someone could help me out here. I'd really rather not have the installer put all that stuff in my registry only to have to clean it all out meticulously when a new release forces me to update.

Have you been able to unpack it yourself successfully?

I really think it's not too hard for the binary to be hosted as well, unless the makers are worried about security, which of course I understand (unless the installer really is fully extractable).

Reply 4 of 12, by Qbix

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the installer only adds the uninstaller to the registry.
nothing more. If you don't like that, then use a different program 😀

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Reply 5 of 12, by eL_PuSHeR

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I think DOSBox installer (NSIS, I think if I am not mistaken) is little intrusive to the operating system. Never had any problems with it.

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Reply 6 of 12, by ripsaw8080

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The console (command line) interface of 7-Zip has the same capabilities as its GUI. Simply run 7z.exe with the "e" command to extract and give it the name of the archive; in this case the installer. For example: "7z e DOSBox0.72-win32-installer.exe"

Reply 7 of 12, by MiniMax

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ripsaw8080 wrote:

The console (command line) interface of 7-Zip has the same capabilities as its GUI.

Not quite true.

Command line version:

> 7za.exe l DOSBox-0.72-win32-installer.exe

7-Zip (A) 4.57 Copyright (c) 1999-2007 Igor Pavlov 2007-12-06

Error: DOSBox0.72-win32-installer.exe is not supported archive

Errors: 1
readme.txt wrote:
Features of 7za.exe: - High compression ratio in new 7z format - Supported formats: - Packing / unpacking: 7z, ZIP, G […]
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Features of 7za.exe:
- High compression ratio in new 7z format
- Supported formats:
- Packing / unpacking: 7z, ZIP, GZIP, BZIP2 and TAR
- Unpacking only: Z
- Highest compression ratio for ZIP and GZIP formats.
- Fast compression and decompression
- Strong AES-256 encryption in 7z and ZIP formats.

Full version (in command line mode):

> 7z.exe l DOSBox0.72-win32-installer.exe

7-Zip 4.57 Copyright (c) 1999-2007 Igor Pavlov 2007-12-06

Listing archive: DOSBox0.72-win32-installer.exe

Method = LZMA:23
Solid = +

Date Time Attr Size Compressed Name
------------------- ----- ------------ ------------ ------------------------
2007-08-26 20:33:22 46929 1224330 zmbv\README.txt
2007-08-26 20:33:22 18332 zmbv\COPYING.txt
2007-08-26 20:33:22 874 zmbv\THANKS.txt
2007-08-26 20:33:22 24551 zmbv\NEWS.txt
2007-08-26 20:33:22 243 zmbv\AUTHORS.txt
2007-08-26 20:33:22 3611 zmbv\INSTALL.txt
2007-08-26 20:14:42 3200000 zmbv\dosbox.exe
2007-08-26 20:06:44 7351 zmbv\dosbox.conf
2007-08-17 19:44:56 331776 zmbv\SDL.dll
2007-08-17 19:45:42 13312 zmbv\SDL_net.dll
2007-03-02 12:44:44 94208 zmbv\zmbv\zmbv.dll
2007-03-02 12:04:14 2103 zmbv\zmbv\zmbv.inf
2007-07-30 10:08:34 zmbv\zmbv\README.txt
------------------- ----- ------------ ------------ ------------------------
3743290 1224330 13 files, 0 folders
readme.txt wrote:
The main features of 7-Zip: […]
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The main features of 7-Zip:

- High compression ratio in the new 7z format
- Supported formats:
- Packing / unpacking: 7z, ZIP, GZIP, BZIP2 and TAR
- Unpacking only: RAR, CAB, ISO, ARJ, LZH, CHM, MSI, WIM, Z, CPIO, RPM, DEB and NSIS
- Fast compression and decompression
- Self-extracting capability for 7z format
- Strong AES-256 encryption in 7z and ZIP formats
- Integration with Windows Shell
- Powerful File Manager
- Powerful command line version
- Localizations for 69 languages

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Reply 8 of 12, by ripsaw8080

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I stand not corrected, as I never suggested using 7za.exe 😀

Reply 9 of 12, by eL_PuSHeR

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You can add basic installing features to autoextractable 7z files by downloading some sfx files and combining them with a text script.

What's the problem with NSIS guys? If it fails on your machines, is quite probable that some other packers fail too.

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Reply 10 of 12, by valnar

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OP: If it bugs you, just install it, copy off the folder somewhere else, then uninstall it. It will run fine.

Reply 11 of 12, by Arkay

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I'm not complaining, and in truth I have little right to be asking for anything, because I have never donated to support DosBox and yet I've used it to relive my childhood and play old games I never thought I'd be able to again.

In the end, I was just hoping there was a quick fix. Its not that I'm paranoid about tons of things getting installed where they shouldn't be; Its a clean installer for the most part. I just don't care for the start menu, desktop icon, registry entry, add/remove program entry...I can of course get rid of those after installing, but I figured it would be easier, since DosBox doesn't need any of those things to run, if I could just skip the work and find the latest version in a simple ZIP.

I'll just wait till I reformat my computer and I'll install 7zip instead of winrar and unpack the installer myself.

Thanks to the guys who tried to help!

Reply 12 of 12, by wd

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Just try what valnar said, that should work quite nicely. You can copy the
dosbox executable where you want as long as you copy the dlls as well,
and maybe the dosbox.conf file for quicker configuration.