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Look voodoo card I won!

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First post, by 2Mourty

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I'm really excited about his one. Hopefully it works 😅 have a look;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem … em=280360407126

Anyways I have 2 boxes I am thinking about this in:

1. A pentium 4 box 865 chipset with a 5900 ultra in it and a 3 ghz processor
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2. My k6 3+ 550 box with a geforce 2mx

Any thoughts as to which one is the better fit for this card?

Reply 1 of 19, by 2Mourty

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Wow I typed the title badly, it should have been look AT the voodoo card I won.

Anyways I had the humerous thought of trying it in my socket3 motherboard that has a pentium overdrive in it, but that does seem a bit ridiculous.

Reply 2 of 19, by retro games 100

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Good price! 😎 I'm quite surprised by that.

I tried a V3 in a 486 once. Wouldn't POST. No way on Earth would that thing [V5] work in a Skt3 board.

Reply 3 of 19, by elfuego

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Machine 1. K6 will not nearly be enough to utilize the card, and V5 will benefit nicely from a powerful P4 😀

Reply 4 of 19, by 5u3

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Nice find! Congratulations! 😀

elfuego wrote:

Machine 1. K6 will not nearly be enough to utilize the card, and V5 will benefit nicely from a powerful P4 😀

I second that.

Reply 5 of 19, by swaaye

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I ran a Voodoo3 2000 PCI in my 486. 😀 (MSI-4144 SIS 496/497 mobo)

I ran it with both a Am5x86 and a PODP5V@100MHz. With a 486-based CPU like the Am5x86 you have to run older drivers cuz newer revisions seem to require Pentium instructions (they crash on the 486.)

Yeah of course the V3 is massive overkill. A Voodoo1 is big time overkill for that matter.

Reply 6 of 19, by ChrisR3tro

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Hi Marvin!

Usually AGP versions of that card are priced around that. I still have mine, which I bought when it came out (for a little fortune back then :). The PCI version is usually harder to find and more expensive.

I wonder if there is a big performance difference between the PCI and AGP versions.

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Reply 7 of 19, by Amigaz

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Locutus wrote:
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Hi Marvin!

Usually AGP versions of that card are priced around that. I still have mine, which I bought when it came out (for a little fortune back then 😀. The PCI version is usually harder to find and more expensive.

I wonder if there is a big performance difference between the PCI and AGP versions.

locutus

Would like to know that too....wish I had a working AGP version so I could compare both cards performance

Reply 8 of 19, by prophase_j

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Congratulations! I was following that same item, but I got distracted at the last minute and forgot to place my bid.

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Radeon 9800xt // Voodoo2 SLI
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Reply 9 of 19, by 2Mourty

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Thanks for the input, from what I read you are probably right that the card will benefit from a nice powerful P4. Thats a wierd box. I have my 486, K6 3+ and then my P4 with Windows XP and some flavor of win 9x on it; either 98 or ME. I of course have my more modern machine for current games, but for some reason I felt the need for a P4....

Is there some benchmark that I could run that someone with the AGP version could run? It would be fun to find out the performance difference if any.

Reply 10 of 19, by prophase_j

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I think there was an Anandtech article comparing the two, and they figured that there wasn't too much difference unless you pushed them really hard. The AGP version only takes advantge of the higher clock rate provided, 66mhz opposed to 33mhz, and none of the real AGP enhancements. So with the PCI version the same effect could be achieved by overclocking the PCI bus.

Now its likey that when using faster processors the margin would be wider, except for that boards supporting a 2x AGP card will limit you to a certain range. Conversley, PCI slots being much more common you will run into the bottleneck of the PCI bus, as you use faster and faster processors.

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Reply 11 of 19, by ChrisR3tro

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I have also acquired a V5 5500 PCI now and I will benchmark it to compare it to the AGP version once it arrives.

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Reply 13 of 19, by Amigaz

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Locutus wrote:

I have also acquired a V5 5500 PCI now and I will benchmark it to compare it to the AGP version once it arrives.

That would be very kind of you 😀

Reply 14 of 19, by retro games 100

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swaaye wrote:

I ran a Voodoo3 2000 PCI in my 486. 😀 (MSI-4144 SIS 496/497 mobo)

Just got a Voodoo3 2000 PCI working in a 486 board; a Soyo 4SA2, SIS chipset 496. 😀

Reply 15 of 19, by ChrisR3tro

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Hello again

@batracio: No, this isn't my card. I didn't get mine from eBay, but I managed to get one for 25 EUR (that would be around 35 USD)

Anyway, I have done a little testing:

Test system:

  • PIII-S 1.4 ghz, the 512 kb L2 cache version
    ASUS TUSL2-C (Intel 815EP chipset), latest beta BIOS 1014
    Latest official Voodoo5 beta drivers 1.04.01
    Windows Me + DirectX 9
    AGP Voodoo5 has BIOS 1.06
    PCI Voodoo5 has BIOS 1.11

I used 3DMark2001 SE as benchmark. I don't know if this tool is any good in terms of measuring the performance of a 3Dfx card, afterall it's a Direct3D based benchmark. Still, here are the results:

  • Voodoo 5 5500 AGP: 2318 3D marks
    Voodoo 5 5500 PCI: 1988 3D marks

So there seems to be a measurable difference, afterall. Maybe I should do some tests with Glide based games, but for now I just have to do some gaming, since I've been spending too much time acquiring stuff and not enough time using all the gear. ;)

Locutus

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Reply 16 of 19, by Kiwi

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Within the past hour, I was high bidder on a VooDoo3, 3000, for $6 shipped! 😁 No one else bid, but it comes with nothing at all other than a promise that it won't be DoA. Did the AGP versions also have poor 2D quality? And if I could find a pass-through cable for it, would it work like a VooDoo2 does (I mean, let a PCI card with good 2D handle that part)?

*Is* there any source for pass-through cables, if so?

Thanks,

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Kiwi

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Reply 17 of 19, by Davros

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voodoo3 dont use pass through cables and you don't need a separate 2d card

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Reply 18 of 19, by batracio

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Besides, Voodoo3 (both AGP and PCI versions) had one of the best 2D qualities of its time, second only to Matrox G400 MAX.

Reply 19 of 19, by Kiwi

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Some of you may recall that there was a period of a few years, back when the 3dFX cards were being sold, that CRPGs weren't being released. Those were the only games that I made the time to play, and my free time then was very limited. I was aware of the VooDoo cards through the game magazines, however, I just had no use for 3D until later.

By the time I was playing a game that asked for a 3D card, it also demanded OpenGL, and I was having trouble with some Rage 128 or other, then I ended up with a Riva TNT2.

I do have time now, although not a lot of money, so retro hardware, and old games, even if they are not RPGs, are now an interest, but VooDoos and I are brand new acquaintances.

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Kiwi

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