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My Win98 rig.

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First post, by senrew

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So, I've eventually got my Win98 rig up and working. A coworker heard I was into older machines and graced me with several machines worth of old parts and I was able to put together the following system.

My Win98 rig, v1.0:

Asus p3v133
p3 933/256/133/1.7v s1
512mb pc133
Creative pci512, ct-4790
GeForce 6200 AGP 256mb
HP mx705 17" CRT
HP CD-Writer 8100+
30g/40g HDs, second drive is just kinda sitting in there

So far it's behaved ok. I'll get occasional boot issues. The machine will post and get to the part where it probes the drive controllers and then just kinda hang there. I think it's a cold boot issue, the thing needs to resterted a couple times to fix that.

For some reason, even with the best drivers for the video card and the profile for the monitor, it still gets out of frequency range errors when the machine goes to sleep or when the monitor powers off from energy settings timeouts. I've just set it to never sleep/turn off the monitor and it's all good.

Games-wise, I have some crashes to the desktop here and there. I'm not sure if the machine is too fast for the games I'm trying, or if the geforce is just not the best choice for the games.

Rogue Spear Rainbow Six quits to desktop as soon as the renderer loads.
Outlaws crashes a few seconds into actual gameplay
TIE Fighter collector's CD-Rom will go all fuzzy and colored-lines when coming out of missions to the debreifing when 3d accel is turned on.

I haven't really encountered too many other issues so far. Freelancer will start with a message saying it doesn't recognize my card but GODDAMN if it isn't pretty while playing. All options on and at max, that was a very very well drawn game, despite the voice acting.

So, any ideas about the crashes to the desktop? All games are fully patched and my drivers are all at final releases for the most part. I think the NV drivers are 71.49 or something around there. the 84.xx drivers refused to install, saying win98 wasn't supported.

Reply 1 of 5, by Old Thrashbarg

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The machine will post and get to the part where it probes the drive controllers and then just kinda hang there. I think it's a cold boot issue, the thing needs to resterted a couple times to fix that.

Check your master/slave settings. Some drives have separate settings for 'single' and 'master', and can often hang up the autodetection if set incorrectly.

Reply 2 of 5, by sgt76

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That 6200 is very bad with Win98. I have one and have tried various drivers from 4x to the last one 81.98, compatibility with old games is really poor. If its possible try to get an older card like from 98-01, before the XP era. A voodoo3, matrox g400, nvidia mx/ tnt or ati rage would be super.

Reply 3 of 5, by senrew

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I'm learning very quickly about the 6200 hating being actually used.

I've got a few other cards, but I was thinking of building a slower box for some of the games that don't like being run too fast.

I've got a pII setup I was going to put together for this, with a few cards to choose from.

Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 Pro 4mb
Vanta TNT2/M64 32mb
ATI Rage 128, which I can't figure out if it's a 128 or 128 pro...
GeForce4 MX 4000, which I'm not too sure of to be honest.

I was leaning towards the tnt2. What do you guys think?

Reply 4 of 5, by prophase_j

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Geforce4 MX. Basically a GF2, but 2 generations ahead of the TNT2. The TNT2 would be my second choice.

"Retro Rocket"
Athlon XP-M 2200+ // Epox 8KTA3
Radeon 9800xt // Voodoo2 SLI
Diamond MX300 // SB AWE64 Gold

Reply 5 of 5, by senrew

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Well, I swapped out the cards. I haven't tried the trouble games yet, but a quick firing up of freelancer shows that with all the options on and set to high, it still looks as good as it did with the 6200. I'll give the rest a try sometime today.