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New S3 card for me.

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First post, by Shagittarius

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Just got an old S3 Trio 3D 'on board' card from a machine someone brought in at work to throw away. It's a 3.3v AGP card. I was just wondering is there another name for this card I can't find any real info on it.

Also does anyone know anything about this board, would it be better than a rage board in a P90 DOS machine?

**Since my chronology was all off on this I'm not even sure it has a rage board in it. I'll have to check on that again too.

Sorry don't know too much about it, thanks for any info you have.

Last edited by Shagittarius on 2011-01-19, 20:02. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 1 of 11, by h-a-l-9000

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What's the 86Cxxx number on the chip?

1+1=10

Reply 2 of 11, by Shagittarius

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86C365

Reply 4 of 11, by Markk

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If you use a socket 7 m/b for P90, I don't think it's going to have an AGP socket.

Reply 5 of 11, by Shagittarius

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Right, I'll have to check it again, I guess it would be more likely to have a VLB slot? hmmm...gotta take a look.

Reply 6 of 11, by Old Thrashbarg

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Right, I'll have to check it again, I guess it would be more likely to have a VLB slot?

No, only a few really early Pentium boards had VLB slots. The majority of Socket5/7 boards were PCI.

Reply 7 of 11, by Shagittarius

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Oh thanks of course, my chronology is all messed up. So AGP > PCI > VLB?

Reply 8 of 11, by DonutKing

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No VLB was the earliest, it appeared in the 486 era andcould be problematic at higher bus speeds.

PCI appeared in late 486 boards as a replacement for VLB and most socket 5/7 boards had PCI slots. Some early pentum boards had VLB slots but this was very short lived.

AGP was more common in the Pentium 2 era. Most early P2 boards had AGP while very few socket 7 boards did.

There was an extension to socket 7 called , funnily enough, super socket 7 mainly for 100mhz FSB support but many of these had AGP as well. These were usually paired with an Amd K6 CPU or similar, rather than a pentium and competed with the pentium 2.

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Reply 9 of 11, by Shagittarius

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Sorry I meant that in order of power, but yes I see what you are saying. I shouldn't have said chronology and then went on to rank them backwards like that.

Reply 10 of 11, by Tetrium

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In those days it mattered little if you had an AGP or PCI card anyway.
AGP really started to take off at, say, the time AGP 4x became mainstream.

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Reply 11 of 11, by Shagittarius

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Took a look, it turns out It's a Socket 5 board but does indeed feature PCI/ISA slots only.

Looks like I have no real use for that S3trio yet.

The video board installed shows up as an 'ATI Pro Turbo PCI atim64 - GX'.

I think I'll go see if I can add this machine to the 3dbench list I noticed there were no P90s on it =).

Im using that machine to post this on Win98, its got 80MB of ram which is almost enough to have an enjoyable cruise on the net but it's still pretty slow for all sites except vogons.

I'm running on at the mouth, thanks everyone for your help earlier.