according to this site: http://www.512bit.net/matrox.html

the g2+ simply denotes that it is PCI and not AGP. At least as far as I can see. I also know that the G2 uses SDram in what "appears" to be a standard so-dimm package. Care to test this out? I know the G2 is upgradeable to 16mb. That would let you unlock the 1600x1200@32bit resolution. ^.^

I have one such sodimm, but I don't know what upgradeable graphics card it came from.

if nothing else:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem … e=STRK:MEWNX:IT

$10, free shipping. I bought one. 😀

its going to go with my NIB matrox m200 for my retro gamer
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem … RK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

But i'm REALLY glad you posted these utilities, once my card comes i'm going to have fun playing with everything. ^.^

retro games 100 wrote:

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MGA advanced set up, in Windows 3.11 (wfwg)

The looks of this panel makes me think Win3.1 getting Aero.

You should check which G200 model you have before purchasing a memory upgrade. G200 Mystique used standard SDRAM, while G200 Millenium used the faster SGRAM. They are not interchangeable.

I have a G200 Millenium and got a SGRAM upgrade some years ago. It enables higher resolutions, but anything above 800x600x32 is completely unusable in 3D, either with or without the extra memory.

Upgrading the G200 memory causes a somewhat serious drawback: the memory module interface introduces some timing issues at any clock speed higher than 85 Mhz. It won't be overclockable anymore.

Cheers for the info 😉

Iirc the memory module I had had what looked like those SGRAM chips

I beleive the SGRAM style G200's were in the AGP form factor, not PCI. All PCI G200's should use SDRAM.

If you are going to overclock your G200's, you'll need to add a fan to the heatsink. I find a 486 fan fits nicely.

EDIT: @rg100
To answer your question 7, some versions of PowerDesk didn't uninstall well with the Control Panel Uninstaller, i.e. version 4.20 that comes on the original Matrox cd supplied with the card.

In my experience, Matrox cards have never been stellar with actual performance. Come to think of it, I can't remember a time a current generation Matrox card was not outperformed by many cheap budget cards. However, they have always been the best money can buy for analog visual quality.

Serves its purpose fine though if you want to run Win9x 3D-accelerated games as well as Win 3.1 on the side. As far as I remember Matrox supported Win 3.1 up to the G400 series in their drivers.

matrox basically gave up on the whole 3d thing and decided to go after the high-dollar corporate sector. simple matrox video cards are EVERYWHERE in the server market. My main system is a dual opteron setup, It has four 16x pci-e slots but still has onboard matrox video. Their niche is making video cards that powerbrokers use to see 20 monitors at once.

I hope the card I ordered will work with the memory module I got. :p I'll be pissed if it doesnt. Basically the only thing I need for my super socket 8 system is a proper case and a memory upgrade module for my awe64. I'll be using the g200 for 2d, and a 6mb voodoo1 for 3d. ^.^

thx! for this read...interesting read.

I am currently using my g200 in a PII-System, but I have trouble getting the G200 to work with D3D or either OpenGL. There must be an issue with the drivers/dx or with the card.
I think I should do a reinstall of Win95(b) and install the drivers again. Is there an advice for reinstalling thins card? What version should be installed within Win95 and is it important
to install the chipset-drivers (LX440) first. I upgraded from the original DX-Version 4.x? of Win95 directly to DX8.

Ah ffs! I was hoping RG100 had come back! 🙁 🙁 🙁
Dammit...

where is he?

Last time I spoke to him, which was many years ago, he had serious health issues. So I fear the worst, in that he isn't around anymore 😢 But I don't know for sure guys.

really sad to hear that 🙁 Perhaps elianda knows/knew him because in some threads he referenced elianda's homepage.

Everywhere you can read that Matrox are not the best choice for a Dos-Card, especially when it comes to old Games and Demos/Intros.
In some cases this might be right, in other they are very compatible and better than others.
It's therefore stupid to blame matrox, because a PII (in my cases) does not make sense to play very old EGA stuff from 1990 and before.

Here are some things I have noticed so far:

SecretAgent1-3
My G200 (Bios not upgraded) does not display the Intro, neither the game. So here it's true, matrox fails those EGA game-series.

AlienBreed Tower Assault:
Works perfect smooth. My ET4000 fails here. Half of the image ist constantly shadowed. So a clear win for matrox!

more to come.

Kinda miss that guy. Last I heard from rg100 was Oct. 2015. He was definitely having health issues and life adjustments. I'll send him a line.

GXL750 wrote:

In my experience, Matrox cards have never been stellar with actual performance. Come to think of it, I can't remember a time a current generation Matrox card was not outperformed by many cheap budget cards. However, they have always been the best money can buy for analog visual quality.

In its day, the G400 MAX competed pretty well with the TNT2 Pro and Voodoo3 3000, but that was probably the first - and last - time they ever batted in the big leagues for 3D performance. Certainly the G450 and even G550 were sidegrades at best, and the Parhelia was too little, too late.

Windows versions of DOS games list

Can someone tell me where the main "list" is? Would be nice if there was a difference marked if there is a native Win3x or a native Win95 or Win98 port of the Dosgame.

I hope the list linked above is not a list for "ports" from other developers, because I did not remember that e.g. tyrian has a native Windows Version except for "open tyrian"
which is completly different thing and most of the later "win-ports" do require newer machines, newer operating systems and far better cpu/gpu's.

I prefer the oldshool machine and therefore I am very interested in the native ports from the original deveolpers.