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Just came to me...

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First post, by helios64

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It just came to me while making coffee...

Back then I had a 40MHz 486 with 8Mb of RAM, fighting for every last kB from the autoexec.bat and config.sys just to run games... making boot disks for this and that and trying to figure out how to have all my games + windows 95 installed on my 420Mb hard drive.

Today I have TB's of storage, GHz of multi-core multi-processor power and GB's of RAM and I still fight to get the same games to run, tweaking DOSBox conf files for each game.

So basically what came to me was that in 18 or so years nothing has changed... and this is why I love DOSBox - same sh*t, different century!

Reply 1 of 13, by eL_PuSHeR

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You are wrong in one thing: DOSBox is even easier and user-friendlier that ms-dos was. 😎

Reply 2 of 13, by BigBodZod

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eL_PuSHeR wrote:

You are wrong in one thing: DOSBox is even easier and user-friendlier that ms-dos was. 😎

I would agree with you but I think the OP is correct too oh so many ways.

Gone it appears are the days of efficient coding techniques due to this very thing, GBs of RAM and GHz of Multi-Core CPU power to throw at the problem.

No matter where you go, there you are...

Reply 3 of 13, by rfnagel

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eL_PuSHeR wrote:

You are wrong in one thing: DOSBox is even easier and user-friendlier that ms-dos was. 😎

Hehe, yet some of us LOVE the old confusing DOS days/stuff... back when if one understood what the AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS files were, they were a god <grin> 😀

@DOSBox authors,

*PLEASE* *PLEASE* make the DOSBox.conf *MUCH* longer and confusing... to satisfy us DOS masochists 🤣!!!

Last edited by rfnagel on 2011-05-10, 19:19. Edited 2 times in total.

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Reply 4 of 13, by h-a-l-9000

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Confusing like Linux config files? 😁

1+1=10

Reply 5 of 13, by rfnagel

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Hehe, back when I still had my old 486DX4-100 ( http://www.cmoo.com/snor/weeds/Weeds_486DX4-100.htm ) set up and running <grin>:

CONFIG.SYS

DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM HIGHSCAN I=B000-B7FF
SWITCHES=/F
DOS=HIGH
DOS=UMB
BUFFERS=15,0
FILES=40
FCBS=1,0
STACKS=0,0
BREAK=ON
LASTDRIVE=J
NUMLOCK=OFF
DEVICEHIGH /L:1 =C:\SB16\DRV\CSP.SYS /UNIT=0 /BLASTER=A:220
DEVICEHIGH /L:1 =C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
DEVICEHIGH /L:1 =C:\DOS\RAMDRIVE.SYS 55 512 16 /E
DEVICEHIGH /L:2 =C:\ZIPTOOLS\ASPIPPM1.SYS FILE=BYTE.ILM SPEED=10 INFO=YES SCAN=NO
rem DEVICEHIGH /L:2 =C:\TEAC\TEAC_CDA.SYS /D:TEAC-CDA /P:220 /T:0 /S:4
DEVICEHIGH /L:2 =C:\TEAC\CDMKE.SYS /D:TEAC-CDA /SBP:220
DEVICEHIGH /L:2 =C:\SPEEDRV\SDCDEXT.EXE /D:TEAC-CDA /CHANGEFIX /COREL
rem DEVICEHIGH=C:\SB16\DRV\CTSB16.SYS /UNIT=0 /BLASTER=A:220 I:5 D:1 H:5 (CTSOUND Physical-Level driver)
rem DEVICEHIGH=C:\SB16\DRV\CTMMSYS.SYS (Creative DOS Multimedia Architecture Integration driver)
SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM /E:512 /P

AUTOEXEC.BAT

@ECHO OFF
TYPE DIRINFO
COPY COMMAND.COM H:
ATTRIB H:\COMMAND.COM +H +R
SET COMSPEC=H:\COMMAND.COM
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 E620 T6
SET SOUND=C:\SB16
rem SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:G MODE:1 (MIDI Enviroment Variable for Creative DOS Multimedia Architecture)
SET TEMP=C:\TEMP
SET NU=C:\NU
SET PATH=C:\DOS;C:\MICE;C:\NC;C:\NU;C:\PATH;C:\QM3;C:\SPEEDRV;C:\TEST;C:\WINDOWS;C:\ZIP;C:\ZIPTOOLS;C:\WINDOWS\TRUMPET;H:\
PROMPT [MS DOS] $P$G
KEYTAP EVERYDAY "NDD/Q C: D: E: F: G:" //Y
rem IMAGE C: D: E: F: G: /NOBACKUP
rem DISKMAP C: D: E: F: G:
DIAGNOSE /S
AWEUTIL /R:50 /C:25 /S
SB16SET /P
NCC /FAST
LH /L:1 DOSKEY /INSERT
LH /L:2 GUEST LETTER=J
LH C:\TEAC\CORELCDX.COM /D:TEAC-CDA /CACHE=64,64,64 /XMSSIZE=0 /E:3 /L:I /VB
LH CTMOUSE /2
LH SPEEDRV INSTALL INI=C:\SPEEDRV\SPEEDRV.INI
CALL STARTCD
CALL QMENU

There wasn't but maybe one or two extremely obscure things that I couldn't run booting up with those two 😀

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Reply 6 of 13, by h-a-l-9000

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These don't scare me 😉

1+1=10

Reply 7 of 13, by retro games 100

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h-a-l-9000 wrote:

These don't scare me 😉

😎

Reply 8 of 13, by BigBodZod

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h-a-l-9000 wrote:

Confusing like Linux config files? 😁

My name is Indigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to vi 😜

My two favorite files to edit are printers.conf and php.ini 😁

No matter where you go, there you are...

Reply 9 of 13, by rfnagel

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h-a-l-9000 wrote:

These don't scare me 😉

Me either 😀

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Reply 10 of 13, by Dominus

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Eventually I had settled on a combination of batch file and a reboot program. Game specific autoexec.bat and config.sys were saved as game.bat/game.sys and "boot game" would replace the root autoexec.bat/config.sys with those of the game and reboot the computer.

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Reply 11 of 13, by Jorpho

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You know what else is more confusing than dosbox.conf? That thread title. 😜

Reply 12 of 13, by helios64

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sorry about the thread title Jorpho... was more a brain-dump than an informative article 😉

Reply 13 of 13, by SavantStrike

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helios64 wrote:

sorry about the thread title Jorpho... was more a brain-dump than an informative article 😉

At least your brain dumps aren't in hex 🤣.