Congrats!

We discussed this earlier here also and another site for your ref as well...
Socket 370 mobo recommendation required - for a 1.4 GHz Tualatin

sgt76 wrote:

Congrats!

We discussed this earlier here also and another site for your ref as well...
Socket 370 mobo recommendation required - for a 1.4 GHz Tualatin

Ah yes. I posted in that thread and the other you speak of. As I remember someone was looking for confirmation about the tualatin mod on a certain board as well. That lunchbox link has some success stories listed on what board/cpu/and mod needed. Pretty detailed.

Going back in that thread you linked shows F2bnp asking if his CUSL2 would work with the mod. Looks like he didn't get a Tualatin board yet either. Maybe this can help him out.

Everything has been great for about 2hrs now playing carmageddon 2 off and on. Benched 3dmark99 and got 7189 3dmarks/21623 cpu marks.

Only thing I noticed so far is using an old version of PC Probe it shows that L2 max cached at 256k, Then the Installed cached is 512k. So maybe this means its not in use?!?!

I remember a reg trick about setting L2 cache, maybe i'll look that up again.

EDIT: Installed Everest 1.51 and found it says the same thing as Asus PC Probe. Just installed Everest 1.51 with a Soyo TISU (A Tualatin supporting board) and a P3S 1.4GHz and it as well says the same thing.

So I'm left guessing that unless you bought the server motherboards that you don't get to use more than 256k L2 cache. Can anyone else confirm this?

RogueTrip2012 wrote:

Ah yes. I posted in that thread and the other you speak of. As I remember someone was looking for confirmation about the tualati […]
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sgt76 wrote:

Congrats!

We discussed this earlier here also and another site for your ref as well...
Socket 370 mobo recommendation required - for a 1.4 GHz Tualatin

Ah yes. I posted in that thread and the other you speak of. As I remember someone was looking for confirmation about the tualatin mod on a certain board as well. That lunchbox link has some success stories listed on what board/cpu/and mod needed. Pretty detailed.

Going back in that thread you linked shows F2bnp asking if his CUSL2 would work with the mod. Looks like he didn't get a Tualatin board yet either. Maybe this can help him out.

Everything has been great for about 2hrs now playing carmageddon 2 off and on. Benched 3dmark99 and got 7189 3dmarks/21623 cpu marks.

Only thing I noticed so far is using an old version of PC Probe it shows that L2 max cached at 256k, Then the Installed cached is 512k. So maybe this means its not in use?!?!

I remember a reg trick about setting L2 cache, maybe i'll look that up again.

EDIT: Installed Everest 1.51 and found it says the same thing as Asus PC Probe. Just installed Everest 1.51 with a Soyo TISU (A Tualatin supporting board) and a P3S 1.4GHz and it as well says the same thing.

So I'm left guessing that unless you bought the server motherboards that you don't get to use more than 256k L2 cache. Can anyone else confirm this?

i've seen discussions like this, and my opinion is BS. the integrated ondie cache thing is, unlike the onboard ones(on socket7 boards), completely autonomously controlled by CPU and transparant to the exterior world, including the mainboard. just think, if its up to the mainboard's control, it would be slow as hell through the fsb.
cache may affect OS behavior, though. if properly designed, an OS can optimize its memory managment according to l2 cache size. but its not up to the OS's control, its the OS adapting itself to cooperate with the cache.

Try SpeedSys, that should show you how much cache it has

Cool. I already destroyed one CPU though, I'm not going to destroy another one.

What's up with the font color though ? 😖

@RogueTrip2012

Well done mate! What OS are you running? XP?

F2bnp wrote:

Cool. I already destroyed one CPU though, I'm not going to destroy another one.

What's up with the font color though ? 😖

The dark blue on CPU-Z is hard coded I believe. Add a dark theme that I made and you get the seen above. Either that or something I haven't caught in my theme creation but haven't tracked down. No other program does that color though.

EDIT: That stinks about the cpu, what one was it? I just used a 3" knife and wiggled the pins back and forth a little amount till they all broke off, took about 5mins per pin maybe. Didn't pull the whole pin out either so there is still solder pad left if needed.

@ Tetrium

Still Win98SE 😀

I tried the reg trick but didn't help and meant for older cpu's anyways.

@Donutking

I'll look into that program, bios and windows show 512k installed, just max cached is 256k. I hope it is BS!!

RogueTrip2012 wrote:

I just used a 3" knife and wiggled the pins back and forth a little amount till they all broke off, took about 5mins per pin maybe. Didn't pull the whole pin out either so there is still solder pad left if needed.

I found the easiest way is to use an universal pin corrector 😁

Tetrium wrote:

RogueTrip2012 wrote:

I just used a 3" knife and wiggled the pins back and forth a little amount till they all broke off, took about 5mins per pin maybe. Didn't pull the whole pin out either so there is still solder pad left if needed.

I found the easiest way is to use an universal pin corrector 😁

Shit, this is brilliant! Why didn't I think of that?
What I did was pull the pins out which resulted in damaging the CPU...
I might give the "universal pin corrector" a try, if I find any good propelling pen around the house.
Thanks 😁

IIRC You can change the colours in cpu-z, I had mine set to hot pink Comic Sans at one point.

Tetrium wrote:

I found the easiest way is to use an universal pin corrector 😁

Yep, good for straightening. I was afraid using it to break the pins may pull the pad out as well so didn't wanna try that. Probably would work though if you don't put the pencil down to the bottom of the pin and wiggle it back and forth.

@TheLazy1

Thanks! I knew it wasn't my theme! searched real quick and found the text color is in the cpuz.ini file. RGB value so I stuck mine at full green 00FF00.

Anyone have more ideas on how to get the full cache cached 😉 Haven't tried speedsys yet.

So I ran speed sys 4.70 (couldn't find working link for 4.78 )

Weird it test 3 Layers of cache and even L1 says only 16kb!!

Results seem inconclusive to me if I use all of the cache

You're using all the cache. Check on the top left. L1-32KB.
The cpu has 32kb of L1 Cache memory divided into two : 16 KB instruction cache and 16 KB data cache
That's why Speedsys sees 16kb on the bottom right.

Does that mod make the chip incompatible with true Tualatin boards?

Good question but I bet since there is no VID mod it would probably work just fine. Something about Reset lines or another.

Luckily I bought a LOT of 10 P3-S 1.4GHz w/bent pins for under $20 shipped. My seller was awesome and didn't send me 10! They sent 12 instead! All have rather minor bent pins and have already fixed like 4-5 of them. The one I just modded came from that lot 😀 So a CPU survived and put to good use. Anyways I don't think I'm running out of them anytime soon. hehe

I found it kinda funny that Everest says Max clock for the cpu is 1600MHz! Not gonna be trying though as I'm happy just to get it running and stable at that!

EDIT: Before anyone asks. The CPU was original REV tA1 or whatever. not the tB1. All the cache chips were installed on the back. tB1's are missing some cache chips.

do you call those components(i won't reveal what they are ATM) on the back "cache"? 😳

🤣, its late. I did say cache. I meant caps 😀

I might try modding the 1.3GHz Tualeron I got yesterday.
Hopefully my 440ZX board will be okay with it.

TheLazy1 wrote:

I might try modding the 1.3GHz Tualeron I got yesterday.
Hopefully my 440ZX board will be okay with it.

That would be an awesome upgrade. Is your board a Slot 1 or s370?