VOGONS


First post, by tokyoracer

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Hi guys.

It's been a while but I have been pretty busy in recent days with all my old PC hardware (got a bunch of nice boxed old games recently so that was my insentive to finally sort it!). I am just setting up my Am486 100DX4 machine with a new 20Gb HD, a AWE32 and hopefully very soon a nice ATi Mach64 2Mb Vesa Local Bus card. However I can't seem to find for certain drivers for this exact version of the Mach. I am aware it came on a few floppys but I am wondering if you can still get the software and can put it onto CD with it still working (sometimes intallers ask for "Disk 2" when there's obviously no disks and all the info is on the CD, if you know what I mean)?

I did actually find this: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-mach64 . However, does this driver support the VLB version?

Thanks in advance.

Reply 1 of 12, by idspispopd

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You didn't specify for which OS you need drivers, and the link points to XOrg (X11, former XFree86, for Linux and other *nix systems) drivers.
What exactly are trying to do?
Of course the machine could run some flavor of Linux (I installed Linux with GUI on a 386DX-40 with 8MB RAM in the 90s) but since you are wanting to run games there is not much point to install Linux.

Reply 2 of 12, by swaaye

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Moved to Marvin.

Reply 3 of 12, by tokyoracer

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idspispopd wrote:

You didn't specify for which OS you need drivers, and the link points to XOrg (X11, former XFree86, for Linux and other *nix systems) drivers.
What exactly are trying to do?
Of course the machine could run some flavor of Linux (I installed Linux with GUI on a 386DX-40 with 8MB RAM in the 90s) but since you are wanting to run games there is not much point to install Linux.

Oops that would be helpful wouldn't it? I'm currently running Windows 3.1 but I do plan on getting 95 on it at some point. I don't have any intention of running Linux on it as I don't really have the need for that OS on such old hardware. So that's probably knocked that site on the head...

[EDIT] I found this: http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=328 . The 'README' info suggests it should work so i'l give it a go when the card arrives.

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Moved to Marvin.

Many thanks, sorry I forgot that part of the forum.

Reply 4 of 12, by Shodan486

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I think you won't be needing any ''exact'' driver for you version, but anyways I provide you a solid base of several drivers to be tested on variety of OSes:

http://ftp.mpoli.fi/hardware/DISPLAY/ATI/

I can't speak of win3.11, but I sure do know you won't be installing any drivers on win95 - they're already there and run OK (but no serious testing - but seriously - on a 2D chip?)

MOBO: PVI-486SP3 Rev 1.2
CPU: POD-83
RAM: 2x16MB
VIDEO: Matrox Millenium 2MB/Voodoo2 12MB/Video Blaster VT300
AUDIO: SB Vibra16 FM
SCSI: 72GB 15k RPM HDD/YAMAHA CD-RW 16x/ZIP drive + FDD drive
NIC: 3Com Etherlink III
PSU: 230W Generic
OS: Win95 OSR2.5

Reply 5 of 12, by tokyoracer

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Shodan486 wrote:

I think you won't be needing any ''exact'' driver for you version, but anyways I provide you a solid base of several drivers to be tested on variety of OSes:

http://ftp.mpoli.fi/hardware/DISPLAY/ATI/

I can't speak of win3.11, but I sure do know you won't be installing any drivers on win95 - they're already there and run OK (but no serious testing - but seriously - on a 2D chip?)

True enough, will certaily bookmark that too and try them out and see what works best. 😀

Reply 6 of 12, by tokyoracer

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Looks like the link I found on the Vogons driver 'vault' (of sorts) seems to have done the trick. Should there be a command line during MSDOSboot relating to the new VGA card drivers?

Reply 7 of 12, by tokyoracer

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I'm also trying to run the driver in Windows 3.1 to get 256 colour mode. This is proving to be difficult because there is no 640x480 SVGA 256 colour mode and if i'm honest, have no idea how to load in the driver into windows to reconize the card.

Apologies for the triple post in a row.

Reply 8 of 12, by elianda

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You go to the windows folder and run setup, then choose graphics driver (by default its VGA). It asks for the path where you put it, enter the path. It should display the list of modes the driver is capable of. Choose.

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Reply 9 of 12, by tokyoracer

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elianda wrote:

You go to the windows folder and run setup, then choose graphics driver (by default its VGA). It asks for the path where you put it, enter the path. It should display the list of modes the driver is capable of. Choose.

I know that much, what file type(s) am I looking for? .DRV? I tried putting the the path to the Mach64 files that I got from the Vogons link (above) into a directory on C:\ and it didn't seem to find or install anything.

Reply 10 of 12, by idspispopd

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tokyoracer wrote:

I know that much, what file type(s) am I looking for? .DRV? I tried putting the the path to the Mach64 files that I got from the Vogons link (above) into a directory on C:\ and it didn't seem to find or install anything.

There is a README.TXT in the zip file. It seems you have to run one of the EXE files to unpack it and then edit system.ini manually according to the description.

Reply 11 of 12, by tokyoracer

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idspispopd wrote:
tokyoracer wrote:

I know that much, what file type(s) am I looking for? .DRV? I tried putting the the path to the Mach64 files that I got from the Vogons link (above) into a directory on C:\ and it didn't seem to find or install anything.

There is a README.TXT in the zip file. It seems you have to run one of the EXE files to unpack it and then edit system.ini manually according to the description.

I didn't notice that, i'l go check it out and see what I can do. Though i've no experience editing the sytem.ini, I can only assume its similar to autoexec?

Reply 12 of 12, by Shodan486

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Yes. Since you've gone this far, you'll be able to figure it out, no worries.

MOBO: PVI-486SP3 Rev 1.2
CPU: POD-83
RAM: 2x16MB
VIDEO: Matrox Millenium 2MB/Voodoo2 12MB/Video Blaster VT300
AUDIO: SB Vibra16 FM
SCSI: 72GB 15k RPM HDD/YAMAHA CD-RW 16x/ZIP drive + FDD drive
NIC: 3Com Etherlink III
PSU: 230W Generic
OS: Win95 OSR2.5