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First post, by Retrodude

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I got an old Compaq Deskpro Windows 95 computer recently from a flea market, and the thing's CMOS battery is definitely dead, as it does not save the date and time and I'm unable to access the BIOS settings menu during boot up. Most CMOS batteries seem to come in some kind of "latch" holder that makes them easily replaceable. Unforunately this one seems to be soldered on rather than having one of those other methods.

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My father's pretty handy with soldering tools and he thinks he may be able to replace it, but I'm not so certain. I've been unable to find any information regarding this particular type of soldered battery (I'm only able to find the latch kind or batteries with pre-soldered connectors) and the info I CAN find about these says that it's extremely dangerous to solder directly onto a coin cell battery. I don't want to have to completely replace the motherboard, but there may be no other option. Does anyone have advice on what to do, or knowledge of replacing soldered CMOS batteries of this type?

Reply 1 of 8, by mr_bigmouth_502

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Do you have any pictures of the battery in question?

Reply 2 of 8, by Retrodude

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The picture in my original post is one I took previously, but I'll take a new one at a closer angle shortly if it's too hard to tell how it's soldered on.

Edit: Much closer and clearer.

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The battery itself should be easy to find, however its the contacts that I need to know about. Can they be reused?

Reply 3 of 8, by mr_bigmouth_502

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My browser may have blocked it then. 🤣 I kind of run a tight security setup, and sometimes it overreacts. Do you have a link to the image in question?

Reply 4 of 8, by Retrodude

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsygSKFCEAAICtc.jpg
Sorry 'bout that. It might be blocked because it's from a Twitter image link. Twitter sure is handy for quick photo uploading and hosting!

Reply 5 of 8, by Maeslin

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Yeah, taking a soldering iron close to a lithium primary cell would generally be a bad idea. If possible, I'd recommend using very thin snips (or flat-side cutters) to eat away at the side tab to remove the battery, then desolder the tab.

The BR-series of batteries is a slightly different chemistry from the more common CR-series. It has a slightly lower power density but the same voltage. You could replace the battery with a conventional CR2032 if you want.

I'd have to see what the underside of the board is like to see all the battery contacts but chances are pretty good you can find a proper battery holder that would fit right in there. Calipers might be necessary if you want to exactly match the footprint.

Reply 6 of 8, by 133MHz

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If you can't easily get a CR2032 holder you can replace it with a pair of AAs. Cut the battery away leaving some of the tab materials as Maeslin suggested, then solder the flying leads from a 2xAA battery holder to the remaining tab stubs, make sure you get the polarity right.

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Such a holder can then be velcroed or zip-tied to the inside of the case.

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Reply 7 of 8, by Retrodude

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Maeslin wrote:

Yeah, taking a soldering iron close to a lithium primary cell would generally be a bad idea. If possible, I'd recommend using very thin snips (or flat-side cutters) to eat away at the side tab to remove the battery, then desolder the tab.

The BR-series of batteries is a slightly different chemistry from the more common CR-series. It has a slightly lower power density but the same voltage. You could replace the battery with a conventional CR2032 if you want.

I'd have to see what the underside of the board is like to see all the battery contacts but chances are pretty good you can find a proper battery holder that would fit right in there. Calipers might be necessary if you want to exactly match the footprint.

Yeah, thanks for the info. I'd show the underside of the motherboard if it weren't for the fact that it was built in an L-shape (It's a horizontally-oriented computer case) and one of the screws has been stripped. My dad and I will give removing it another go later, he's just a little too busy right now. If the bottom is okay for a battery holder, though, that will make replacing the battery someday in the future far easier, so I'll post a picture as soon as we get the mobo removed.

Reply 8 of 8, by Retrodude

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Bump: My dad got the battery and contacs removed in one piece. Here's an image of the underside.

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For good measure I took close-up pictures of the location the battery goes to as well as its underside area.

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Would we be able to replace it with a standard holder?

EDIT: I finally got to a solution. I found the exact battery I needed for sale on a website. It has the exact same contacs soldered onto it. My dad soldered it into the motherboard and it works perfectly!