Aw man. Let's hope you can get it sorted out. I always enjoy vour videos.

Kris, I always upload my videos unlisted. Then I wait out the content check and if everything is green I publish it.

One thing I noticed is that you tend to talk non stop through the videos, meaning the bulk of the content is you. The footage seems often unrelated to what you currently talk about. My understanding is that it's ok to show copyrighted material as long as it somewhat educational and what you do is actually relevant to what is shown in the video.

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the use of video games must be minimal unless the associated step-by-step commentary provides instructional and/or educational value and is strictly tied to the live action being shown.

A lot of your videos I can just listen to like a podcast. Like in the pinball video you explain a wide range of topics but the footage has zero relevance to what you talk about. I hope this makes sense.

For music YouTube has the YouTube Audio Library. Just got to mention the title, artist and that it's from the YT Audio Library.

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

Kris, I always upload my videos unlisted. Then I wait out the content check and if everything is green I publish it.

Yeah, but as I said, the video was working perfectly fine for a little, then suddenly wasn't with no indication that it wasn't. I only clued in as quick as I did because someone commented that the audio wasn't working a little while AFTER I had made the dispute and confirmed that audio was back on following. The video shows a working volume slider and no muting messages, making ME look like an idiot who uploaded a silent video. >:(

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

One thing I noticed is that you tend to talk non stop through the videos, meaning the bulk of the content is you. The footage se […]
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One thing I noticed is that you tend to talk non stop through the videos, meaning the bulk of the content is you. The footage seems often unrelated to what you currently talk about. My understanding is that it's ok to show copyrighted material as long as it somewhat educational and what you do is actually relevant to what is shown in the video.

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the use of video games must be minimal unless the associated step-by-step commentary provides instructional and/or educational value and is strictly tied to the live action being shown.

A lot of your videos I can just listen to like a podcast. Like in the pinball video you explain a wide range of topics but the footage has zero relevance to what you talk about. I hope this makes sense.

I know. There are some people who do indeed listen to my videos without actually watching them, though I try my best to keep the video footage as relevant to what I'm saying as possible, but sometimes I just don't have decent footage for the topic at hand or other times there would be multiple cuts in the course of just a few seconds in order to keep the footage relevant to what I'm saying, which would be difficult to watch.

The thing is though, copyright is supposed to exist to protect the creative works of authors from being exploited by other people. Reviewing something is NOT exploitation. Any review, positive or negative, is promotion of the material being reviewed, making people aware of it and giving them details about why they should or shouldn't care about it. Out of all the people and companies I've contacted about the games I've covered I've never, not even once, had a negative response. Game developers clearly want reviews of their games to exist, but the automatic handling of Content-ID creates a hostile environment for reviewers who have to worry with every single thing they upload, whether monetized or not, if their video is going to be watchable, or if they'll have to screw with disputes and risk destroying their account. >_>;

...unless you were to make reviews with ZERO copyrighted material, but I can count the number of people I've seen succeed with this approach on one hand out of the many thousands of people out there who do reviews... and even those people still use pictures of game boxes or screenshots, which STILL technically count as copyrighted material. :P

It's not going to be like this forever. As long as basic freedoms exist, it can't be. Sooner or later be it tomorrow or a decade from now, Content-ID, or some system like it, is going to result in a massive legal battle between two proponents of such systems, and in the fallout those same companies are going to rally behind better copyright laws that won't be as hostile as the DMCA is, as well as substantially changed systems which won't immediately assume tiny fragments of copyrighted material are going to completely damage and destroy someone's right to their artistic expressions. If that never happens, then all the big companies are going to gain a stranglehold on all artistic expression and before you know it, services like YouTube won't exist because everything anyone could show would technically fall under some big corporation's copyright somehow. There's precedents for this happening already, such as birds chirping in someone's video which hit a Content-ID match with a song that had birds chirping in it.

TL;DR: Copyright is meant to protect the artistic works of authors, which is good, but automatic systems which completely stifle promotion of artistic material is obviously bad, since authors WANT their material to be promoted and recognized. :P

Well, nearly the same happened to me. I had made captures of the intro of the DOS game XWing with GUS PnP and Waveblaster. It did found a ID match with the Star Wars theme, which is not surprising after all. It was ok for about 1 year, they may have added advertising in front of it, even my channel is not monetarized at all. Then one day I noticed by comments on the videos that the audio had been muted. I never got an email from youtube about this action. It was directly after Lucasarts had been aquired by Disney.
I still have a lot of captures from Tie Fighter online and I suspect that they will also be muted one day.
And there is nothing I can do about this. There is even the risk if your dispute is justified not eligible your whole channel may be deleted.

I also have a Copyright notice from a "Content ID" detection at 3:56 min for another video which is a quite experimental demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb4-Pl8Mzp4
I have no real possibility to check detected song is identical. Due to the experimental nature of this demo I strongly doubt this. In the possible dispute choices there is no way to suspect that the detection is simply wrong. So as uploader you are completely lost to the detection system and your video may get removed even after years.
And I can tell that it detects something in nearly every capture I do from demoscene stuff and old games.

ContentID sucks. I've had one pulled for a SNES rendition (King Arthur's World) of Ride of the Valkyries by some "Music Publishing Rights Society". It definitely was no recorded live performance.

I think the strangest contentID detection had to be my capture of the MDK Aug 96 self-running demo, since it detected it as content of some...... unrelated channel for car enthusiasts. Guess all the real brown and sharp metal edges set that off. The video wasn't monetized at all, but that car channel was monetizing from it so I deleted it. 🙁

Also after awhile i've had my Streets of Simcity Voodoo3 video flagged because it detected a Jerry Martin song. Is his pre-TheSims stuff on iTunes or something in high quality now?

i'm also annoyed it only sends me any email if a strike is given, instead of any detection warning.

I miss the good old days of youtube but that was a long time ago and it is a false hope that it will ever return to what it once was. The communities there are mostly empty shells of what they once were.

elianda wrote:

I have no real possibility to check detected song is identical. Due to the experimental nature of this demo I strongly doubt this. In the possible dispute choices there is no way to suspect that the detection is simply wrong.

Under these circumstances you select the option that indicates that the material of the video is your own stuff, describe that this is an incorrect detection, then hope for the best. If the person on the other end is stupid and tries to take your account out in the process, and you've got money, you can take them to court over it. :P

This is why I feel that sooner or later, two large corporations who love Content-ID are going to end up in a huge legal mess over this and will be at the front lines demanding a better system and better laws.

The DMCA was mostly pushed forwards by large corporations who didn't want to spend money protecting their copyrights as it puts YouTube on the hook for copyright violations, unlike in the past where copyright owners would have to police their own stuff, which is the way it SHOULD be and which is a big part of the reason why Content-ID favours the claimants over content producers. :/

leileilol wrote:

ContentID sucks. I've had one pulled for a SNES rendition (King Arthur's World) of Ride of the Valkyries by some "Music Publishing Rights Society". It definitely was no recorded live performance.

This happened with the adlib rendition of "Canon in D" at the end of Episode 11 of my show. There's a particular "Music Publishing Rights Society" out there that has basic renditions of extremely old music in the database which is just plain stupid because seriously, how can you claim ownership of a song that's 300 years old? That was my first ever dispute and the claimant never responded to it, so I COULD probably monetize the video proper now, but I haven't just in case. :P

leileilol wrote:

i'm also annoyed it only sends me any email if a strike is given, instead of any detection warning.

As far as I can tell, the system only sends out eMails if the video has been affected somehow by a Content-ID match, such as with muting.

This is really terrible to read. I was thinking about doing a series of video reviews a while ago, but the more I learned about YouTube and its copyright policies, the less I wanted to do it. I ended up building a website instead. It's probably not as fun as a video series, but I've had to deal with ZERO copyright issues so far.

It's sad that even our tiny retrogaming community is being hurt by the DMCA. (Tiny and completely uncommercial community, I might add.)

maximus wrote:

ended up building a website instead.

Very nice! I really like the way you write, very easy to read and to the point 😀

Gemini000 wrote:

This happened with the adlib rendition of "Canon in D" at the end of Episode 11 of my show. There's a particular "Music Publishing Rights Society" out there that has basic renditions of extremely old music in the database which is just plain stupid because seriously, how can you claim ownership of a song that's 300 years old? That was my first ever dispute and the claimant never responded to it, so I COULD probably monetize the video proper now, but I haven't just in case. 😜

Challenge the claim on anything these jokers try to claim as their own.

Music Publishing Rights Society is a copyright troll. Its doubtful they are legit and are just making false claims to collect ad revenue (note the generic sounding name). Do a Google search, you won't find any contact information or physical address for a business by that name. I'm betting no such company is incorporated with that name anywhere either. Makes you wonder where the ad money is going.

They hit one of my videos with a content ID claim. There was one slight problem though, there was no 3rd party music in the video at all. Yes, those jerks tried to claim a video a I made of me just talking as their own copyright. They never counter challenge anything either.

To add, a friend of mine got a content ID claim from Music Publishing Rights Society on a song in a video that was owned by Universal Music. He challenged the claim, and it was removed. Shortly thereafter, Universal Music (the legit holder of the copyright) made a content ID claim on the song. So these slime balls not only try to steal ad revenue away from original content, but from the big companies as well.

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

Very nice! I really like the way you write, very easy to read and to the point 😀

Thank you! Maybe I'll get around to writing more one of these days.