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ibm model 30 xt errors

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First post, by ValleyGirl

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Hi Everyone,
Hopefully you guys can help - I am trying to revive an old ibm model 30 (xt version) so i can play all the fun windows 3.0 and dos games from yesteryear :0

anyway, here's what's happening, all original parts:

everything is plugged in and i get:
a 161 set date and time error - for the life of me i can't figure out how to set it, and the screen doesn't give me any clues.
right after that i get a 1701 fixed disk error. i am sure it's the hd. if i remove the hd the error goes away but alas no hd.
then is says non-system disk or disk error no doubt because there's nothing to boot.

but no matter what i put in the floppy drive it doesn't matter i get the same. ideas? this is the system put together. monitor, keyboard, hd, floppy, and riser card. ideas? i can't seem to get past this even if i put a boot disk in the floppy. i figured i just had to format and reinstall stuff on the hd but it doesn't appear to let me get that far. it doesn't let me get into a bios either but i forget if the mbs of this age even had one?

if i remove the hard drive, i get the 161 error, then it asks me to push F1 to continue. if I do, then it takes me to a picture of what looks to me like it asking me to put a disk in the drive. i do - but it doesn't appear to read it. nor is it obvious to me what next to do. i have tried pushing all of the f keys and they are commands but they don't do anything other than make the text appear on the screen.

i am a long time tech, but i will admit its been so long since i have monkeyed with any of this i have forgotten how a lot of this works. any help would be appreciated as i am ripping my hair out here! :0 thanks much!!!

Reply 1 of 2, by luckybob

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A 161 error is basically IBM's version of the cmos battery being dead. There is a dallas chip on the motherboard, it needs to be replaced.

Also, if you have the 8086 version, your floppy disk is going to be 800k ONLY. Here is a link to the setup and diagnostics disk: http://ps-2.kev009.com/selectpccbbs/ Make sure you clean the drive before you start using a lot of disks. Also check for bad caps in the floppy drive itself, its a common problem.

As for the hard drive... they are NOTORIOUSLY lousy drives and failed often. An XT will only accept the 20mb version. Aftermarket options are to watch ebay for a Seagate st-125L. They do pop up on ebay occasionally for cheap, but rarely work. I have one with about 1mb in bad sectors if you are desperate.

I have 6 of the model 25's, which are the same as the 30's except the monitor is built in.

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lots of information here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg1ZSxPOb0A

Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. - Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam

Reply 2 of 2, by luckybob

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any updates? I love these old ibm machines!

Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. - Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam