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First post, by rubenerd

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Hi everyone, long time lurker, first time poster. The VOGONS Vintage Driver site is worth its weight in sleek running shoes.

I'm in the process of refurbing my old 200MHz Pentium MMX tower to play some classics. It was the first machine I built as a kid, which gives you more of a hint about my age than I care to admit.

I noticed the Rhino 12+ motherboard has risers/pins for PS/2 and USB 1.0, which I never noticed before. This leads me to the highly technical question: what are the back plates with ribbons to connect to motherboards called? It's hard to start ebaying for this stuff when I can't even remember what these are.

Any ideas? I've asked everyone at uni and work I can find, nobody knows!

Cheers

Reply 1 of 4, by jmannik

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Header connectors. One thing to be careful of with old motherboards, especially usb1 is that they don't always use a standard pin out on the headers, worth double checking the manual.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-Port-USB-2-0-Typ … =item4ad8bb9838

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-PS2-Interface- … =item5d4e3854b5

just a couple of examples to help you... although those results are from the australian ebay you shouldnt find much of an issue finding them in *insert country here*

Dos: AMD 386 DX40 | 8MB RAM | SB Vibra 16
Dos: AMD 586-133|32MB RAM|2GB CF|2MB S3 Virge|AWE32-8MB
WinME: Athlon-500MHz|512MB|2x80GB|SB Live|Voodoo 3 3000 16MB
Win10: i7-6700K|16GB|1x250GB SSD 1x1.5TB|AMD Fury X

Reply 2 of 4, by dexter311

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Be careful with pinouts though. PS/2 mouse header connectors on old mobos are notorious for having different pinouts for different manufacturers. Try to chase down a manual for your motherboard to double check - typically you can rearrange the pins inside the plug to match.

Reply 3 of 4, by rubenerd

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Huge thanks guys! Appreciate the warnings.

I tracked down a PDF of the manual, in Australia of all places http://support.octek.com.au/Downloads/Files/M … ual/P1/p12p.pdf. The USB 1.0 pinout looks like the typical 5x2 pin affair, but I'll confirm the signal pins are where we'd expect.

More interestingly, the PS/2 pinout is 4 wide (+5V DC, GND, MDATA, MCLK), whereas most after market header backplate connector plugs I can see use 5 or 6. I'll do my homework on voltages and pin arrangements to see if I can accommodate this. If there's any uncertainty, I won't use them.

Out of interest, the board uses a legendary AT plug for the keyboard, and PS/2 is listed as a "mouse connector". I suppose in later boards, the AT plug was replaced with a PS/2, hence the incompatibility between different PS/2 ports. Interesting from a historical perspective.

Reply 4 of 4, by obobskivich

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Just another idea - if you have the motherboard's specific model/manufacturer information you may try searching that along with terms like "I/O card" or "header card" or similar. I have an Asus, for example, which has all of this stuff on a single daughter-card that makes 2-3 ribbon connections to the board (it provides USB, PS/2, and IrDA). It's much neater than having multiple expansion slots taken up for all of that stuff.