So my Opteron144 with 1gb of ram running XP stuggles with firefox and chrome, both bog it down and IE8 is of course no longer supported and has rendering problems on the modern web. What is a good lightweight alternative to these browsers?
Opera 12.17
I had a fiddle with QTweb, but Qupzilla is more recent - these are webkit based, but NOT Chromium based - if I recall, QTweb is a single file.
Both support user agent changing, so you may get more out of a site by pretending to be a more common browser.
ill try Qupzilla out, Ive never ever liked opera though, not sure as to why, i just never liked it 🤣.
I think the fastest browser I know of is IE11. It is so smooth on Atom tablets. Definitely faster than Chrome and Firefox.
Unfortunately you need Windows 7/8.
Get moar memory! I often see nice 2x1 GB PC4000 kits sell for $20-$30, expensive but still worth it considering the benefits.
A Socket 939 system should not feel slow browsing the Internet other than when it comes to hi-res video.
New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.
yea i guess i should do that, I'm looking to do some updates to it anyway, 7800GS/7950GT AGP, and an FX57
I'd actually blame XP. I dual-boot XP and 7 on my Opteron 185 system and I've noticed that Chrome feels a little more responsive on Windows 7. It scrolls smoother, too. Actually, with the exception of JS heavy sites, there's a remarkably small difference in web performance between the Opteron and my main system. Having an SSD really helps.
Having said that, I wouldn't exactly call the Chrome/XP combination slow. As mentioned above, you probably just need more RAM. If the video card in that system is ancient, it may be reducing Chrome's performance as well.
"A little sign-in here, a touch of WiFi there..."
wrote:yea i guess i should do that, I'm looking to do some updates to it anyway, 7800GS/7950GT AGP, and an FX57
If you can find a nice Opteron 180/185/190 or a X2 4800+ or a FX60 that would be even better. With a 2.4+ GHz dual core Internet should be smooth for another 5 years or so.
New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.
Tried K-Meleon ? That's light and fast. Rather spartan too.
wrote:wrote:yea i guess i should do that, I'm looking to do some updates to it anyway, 7800GS/7950GT AGP, and an FX57
If you can find a nice Opteron 180/185/190 or a X2 4800+ or a FX60 that would be even better. With a 2.4+ GHz dual core Internet should be smooth for another 5 years or so.
ehh the system exists for games that dont play nice with dual core but that I only have on steam so 98 is not an option, quake 3 based games mostly, RTCW, CoD, Jedi Outcast ect.
As for video card, currently it uses my x800XT AIW which is rather ancient but it also AGP 🤣.
here are the specs as current
Opteron 144 OC'd @ 2.6 Stable, 1gb DDR 500 (PC4000), x800 XT AIW, 500gb Seagate 7200.10 IDE, Nforce3 Epox 9nda3j, Windows XP Pro SP3, SB Audigy. I mean it is a totally awesome 2004 computer 🤣.
You could probably disable one core 😉. Nah I know it isnt the same, the fastest single core is the fastest single core, lucky enough the FX57 isnt very hard to find 😀
You could try to score an Opteron 156, they do really exist just as elves, gremlins, and Eskimos!
New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.
honestly i think id have better luck finding a NiB FX 5800 Ultra than an opty 156 🤣
Otterbrowser isn't so bad, it can only get better as it's still sort of being worked on.
If you really want lightweight you can always go for text based browsers like links, lynx, and elinks. Links has sort of a hybrid version that is text and pictures, even has a 64 bit version for whatever good that would do.
Just a note - if the purpose of this machine is single-core compatibility, I'd steer away from the 939 dual-cores. They have the timing bug, which can break games/applications that will otherwise work on SMP machines, and the AMD "Optimizer" application (if its still distributed) does not provide a universal fix. That said, that Opteron should be fine if you add more RAM. My P4EE was/is fine in Vista with 2GB+ of RAM, and the Opteron will be similar (if not faster) in performance.
On the graphics card - aside from improving performance in games, and adding SM3.0 support (not that uh, GeForce 7 will do a stellar job with "heavy" SM3.0 games), there'd be no benefit to the GeForce 7. They won't do anything for web browsing/web content (nor will the X800). So I'd probably pass on such an upgrade unless you need higher gaming performance.
Something to consider though - there are PCIe-based 939 boards, and you could throw the Opteron, 2GB+ of RAM, and a GeForce 8600 (or similar) in such a board and have an overall very good performing machine that would also handle the web/multimedia much better.
A quote from an Anandtech review.
"Intel does make these cute little JavaScript programs available for download if you do happen to want to use them on your own page, however it'll probably be a while before you see stuff like this become "mainstream" in the web arena. The day when we all have to stop joking about how you don't need a Pentium(r) III 550 to surf the web...scary, no? "
New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.
wrote:Just a note - if the purpose of this machine is single-core compatibility, I'd steer away from the 939 dual-cores. They have the timing bug, which can break games/applications that will otherwise work on SMP machines, and the AMD "Optimizer" application (if its still distributed) does not provide a universal fix. That said, that Opteron should be fine if you add more RAM. My P4EE was/is fine in Vista with 2GB+ of RAM, and the Opteron will be similar (if not faster) in performance.
On the graphics card - aside from improving performance in games, and adding SM3.0 support (not that uh, GeForce 7 will do a stellar job with "heavy" SM3.0 games), there'd be no benefit to the GeForce 7. They won't do anything for web browsing/web content (nor will the X800). So I'd probably pass on such an upgrade unless you need higher gaming performance.
Something to consider though - there are PCIe-based 939 boards, and you could throw the Opteron, 2GB+ of RAM, and a GeForce 8600 (or similar) in such a board and have an overall very good performing machine that would also handle the web/multimedia much better.
its for gaming preformance, I just need it to be responsive when I go to websites for patch's, mods, and downloads 🤣. I don't do general surfing, I have a windows 8 machine for general web surfing
Midori : http://midori-browser.org/
it´s the web browser i used to install in light linux dist. on retro pcs.
