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First post, by kanecvr

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Hi guys.

I recently came across a rage 128 that is a little different from anything else in my collection - it has four memory modules instead of two. Turns out the thing is a Rage Fury PRO with 32MB of vram and a 128bit buffer. It's clocked at 133MHz core and 143MHz vram - so I decided to do some benchmarks. That's when the problems occurred. After 4-5 minutes in any 3D aplication, whether it's direct3D or openGL, the card will stop working - I get "Imput not supported" on my monitor then a black screen (monitors turns off).

I've disabled AGP 8x from bios, disabled fast writes and installed the drivers found in the Vogons Drivers section.

I installed the card on my Athlon XP 2600+ / Abit NF7-S2G (nf2 ultra) / 512MB ram / win98se test rig.

So far I tested 3Dmark99, 3Dmark2001 and Quake 2 Timedemo 1 (witch it completes scoring 127.2 fps in 5.3 seconds @ 640x480 with 8bit textures off), but it still stops working after 4-5 minutes of testing.

Any ideas?

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Reply 1 of 4, by brostenen

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I had somewhat same issues on my first V3-3500. Wich is 100% dead now.
In my quest for fixing it (not worth it anymore, got another instead) I have come across two possible sollutions or possible things to fix that is.
The first one is of course the GPU, wich need to be reflowed. (baked on oven or heatgun)
The other one is the caps, wich need to be replaced. Possible those around the video-output and not the memchips.

Are you'r card "working" when not giving a output signal? Then the GPU and Ram might still be ticking as nothing is wrong, yet there is, because of the lack of video output signal.

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Reply 2 of 4, by swaaye

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I have this same Dell Rage 128 Pro Ultra card. I've found it to be picky about what motherboards it will work reliably in. It was probably typically installed on 440BX and i820 motherboards.

Reply 3 of 4, by kanecvr

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brostenen wrote:
I had somewhat same issues on my first V3-3500. Wich is 100% dead now. In my quest for fixing it (not worth it anymore, got anot […]
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I had somewhat same issues on my first V3-3500. Wich is 100% dead now.
In my quest for fixing it (not worth it anymore, got another instead) I have come across two possible sollutions or possible things to fix that is.
The first one is of course the GPU, wich need to be reflowed. (baked on oven or heatgun)
The other one is the caps, wich need to be replaced. Possible those around the video-output and not the memchips.

Thing is, there's no artifact whatsoever, and it barely gets warm... You can leave it on for two hours playing a movie or just start the PC up cold, it will do the same - hang after 4-5 minutes in 3D apps with a black screen.

brostenen wrote:

Are you'r card "working" when not giving a output signal?

Don't really understand what you mean by the above, but the whole rig hangs. Sound stutters then cuts out, and if left to it's own devices, the machine may or may not reboot in 2-3 minutes. Sometimes the machine does not hang (sound keeps playing in quake 2) but will monitor will display "input not suported". Alt+Tab and CTRL+ALT+DEL seem to send the machine back to desktop, but I still get input not supported.

swaaye wrote:

I have this same Dell Rage 128 Pro Ultra card. I've found it to be picky about what motherboards it will work reliably in. It was probably typically installed on 440BX and i820 motherboards.

Funny thing is, I pulled it out of a HP Vectra VL420 SF 1.7GHz pentium 4. It came with a low-profile bracket, so I swapped that for a normal bracket off another rage 128. Part number seems to point to HP as well, so it's not a dell card. Mine is branded "Rage 128 PRO ULTRA", but part number and drivers identify it as a Rage Fury PRO. Most likely both Dell and HP were served the same OEM version of the card. Dell version also has lower clocked memory (133mhz vs 143 on the HP version).

I'll try it out in a pentium 3 machine next.

Reply 4 of 4, by swaaye

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Interesting. Well I couldn't get it working stably on a Aladdin V Super 7 board nor a VIA KT333 board. Once the ATI drivers were installed the system was unstable.