PeterLI wrote:

How do I connect this 3DFX to a Matrox Millenium? What cables do I need?

http://assets.hardwarezone.com/2009/reviews/v … c3d/magic3d.htm

It looks like a standard Voodoo 2 card. You just need a male-female VGA cable to connect it to your Matrox card. Then, you connect your monitor to the Voodoo 2 card.

Something like this should work:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-short-SVGA-VGA-Mal … =item1c59229cff

Drivers are here:

http://falconfly.de/voodoo2.htm

Here's a picture of the back of my PC with a Voodoo card and a Matrox Millenium:

The Matrox Millenium is the card on top, and the Voodoo card is the one on the bottom. The monitor gets connected to the voodoo card on the bottom.

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No argument there. Up until Voodoo 3, 3dfx really was a pain in the ass. Back in late 1997, I spent a bunch of hours troubleshooting my original Voodoo card and rebuilding my Win95B system numerous times, only to find that it didn't like the PCI slot it was sitting in. Once moved to a different slot, it worked just fine. Nowadays, there are plenty of other options (including GLIDE wrappers) and there is no reason to tolerate that sort of crap unless you want the period-correct experience.

I have a couple sets of Voodoo 2 cards, but I won't be adding any more to my collection. Like the V5, they're expensive, fragile, and fickle. The Voodoo 3 was the best of all the 3dfx cards and I would rather just use one of those headache-free. I really believe they are the best choice for a late-90s legacy PC up through 2001.

KT7AGuy wrote:

No argument there. Up until Voodoo 3, 3dfx really was a pain in the ass. Back in late 1997, I spent a bunch of hours troubleshooting my original Voodoo card and rebuilding my Win95B system numerous times, only to find that it didn't like the PCI slot it was sitting in. Once moved to a different slot, it worked just fine. Nowadays, there are plenty of other options (including GLIDE wrappers) and there is no reason to tolerate that sort of crap unless you want the period-correct experience.

I have a couple sets of Voodoo 2 cards, but I won't be adding any more to my collection. Like the V5, they're expensive, fragile, and fickle. The Voodoo 3 was the best of all the 3dfx cards and I would rather just use one of those headache-free. I really believe they are the best choice for a late-90s legacy PC up through 2001.

I never had problems using a voodoo 2 or a voodoo 2 sli.
I have even run "mismatched" sli.
fragile, fickle? I disagree. expensive - yup.

to everyone who wants to use a voodoo2 - it is actually easy!

Yep, same experience here - just plug and play. I really like v1/2 cards.

Both on and off, regarding how easy it is. Yeah. Depends highly on the motherboard and driver's.
Some primaery (The 2D card) cards, tend to make the image wobble a bit, in terms of scanlines and such.
When combined with a Voodoo1/2, that is.

So yeah... If the right hardware is chosen, you have no problems at all. Voodoo's are not that great.
Expensive, YES. PITA. Well... Sometimes and sometimes not.

I have had V1 going all crazy in SS7 build's and working fine in other SS7 build's.
Orchid worked fine in a P5A with a K6-III-400 and a K6-II-500. The ColorMax was a pain though.
V1 on a P4vm88 with a Radeon9600, was absolutely a pain. (goes for every single V1's tried)

Voodoo2 are more compatible, and for the most parts work on all from P3 and lower horsepowers.
That includes K6-Cpu's too. Just needed the right drivers I guess.

My take on Voodoo1/2 cards are:
You REALLY need to use it. Or in other words. They are good in a dedicated Glide-rig.
Other than that, they are a waste of money, because of what they are sold for.

If you have big money, then shure, fine. Go for it. Then the argument of price/performance/useability,
are somehow totally indefferent and has no mening at all.

On the other hand. If you can source a cheap and working Voodoo1/2/2-SLI then grab it.
Test it and see if they are something for you or not.
If they truly are not for you, then you can make some pretty decent money on them.

KT7AGuy wrote:

Once moved to a different slot, it worked just fine.

This is just all guess-work on my behalf. It might be, the way INT-Lines are triggered within the bios.
You know. The card might want INT-A or INT-B or perhaps one for the Voodoo and one for the 2D-Card.
They need different triggers, and as much as it does not need an IRQ assigned,
it might use one when triggered within Windows.

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Could it be that most problems are caused because pci slot 1 and slot 5 shared the same resources?
Remember back in the day when i worked in ict this would cause all kinds of trouble.

I think i may have chosen my words poorly. Here's what I meant:

Voodoo 1 & 2 cards:
Use up extra PCI slots.
Require a pass-thru cable which degrades image quality.
Require a 2nd set of video drivers, adding another layer of complexity to an immature and not 100%-stable technology.
Do not always "just work", and sometimes require a bit of fussing around.

Voodoo 3 cards:
Have none of those drawbacks.

brostenan, seob,

Voodoo 1 & 2 cards don't use IRQs. This is going back 18 years, so I only remember banging my head against the wall trying to figure out why the V1 wouldn't work. Since it doesn't use an IRQ, I couldn't figure out why it would work in one PCI slot, but not another. The PCI slots were not defective in any way and I still use that very same computer to this day. However, I've got a Diamond in it now instead of the original Orchid. I also still have and use that Orchid card in another PC too. It was just a fussy card, for some weird reason.

Hardware compatiblity isn't always 100%. I assembeld high end pc's with the best tech money could by in the late 90's, and sometimes hardware just wasn't willing to work. Swapping out 1 component with another one or other brand would sometimes solve the problem.

KT7AGuy wrote:

brostenan, seob,

Voodoo 1 & 2 cards don't use IRQs. This is going back 18 years, so I only remember banging my head against the wall trying to figure out why the V1 wouldn't work. Since it doesn't use an IRQ, I couldn't figure out why it would work in one PCI slot, but not another. The PCI slots were not defective in any way and I still use that very same computer to this day. However, I've got a Diamond in it now instead of the original Orchid. I also still have and use that Orchid card in another PC too. It was just a fussy card, for some weird reason.

Yeah... I know V's are not assigned any IRQ's as such, eighter by BIOS or by any operating systems.
I was just thinking that any hardware was in the need of an IRQ to be called, when it is active and in use.
I did say that I was not quite shure on this at all.

What does "soeb" mean?

brostenen wrote:

What does "seob" mean?

It doesn't mean anything, just the letters of BeOS rearranged. By far the best OS back then.

seob wrote:

brostenen wrote:

What does "seob" mean?

It doesn't mean anything, just the letters of BeOS rearranged. By far the best OS back then.

Ahh... Was a username. My mistake, was not paying attention.

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Try the FastVoodoo2 V4.6 drivers from over at FalconFly.de

Also, according to Vetz' list, NASCAR 2 needs to be installed under Windows and also needs a patch. Are you sure you're running the Windows version with the correct patch?

(Sorry, I don't have that game, so I'm grasping at straws.)

KT7AGuy wrote:

I think i may have chosen my words poorly. Here's what I meant:

Voodoo 1 & 2 cards:
Require a pass-thru cable which degrades image quality.

Nobody was thinking about this at the time, but I bet if you either have a cable custom-made or find a short one which uses 75-Ohm mini-coax on all 5 primary lines "R, G, B and H-Sync, V-Sync, it would retain signal quality, and give an improved image in as much as it will be better than years ago when they used a standard cable with coax only on the R, G and B lines.

Although, it is possible that the original shorty cable had coax on all five primaries, but I SERIOUSLY doubt it.