Quantum 3D did develop a agp version of the V2 and it did work however like any other V2 you still needed another card for 2D. You can find pictures of the card on the net and it is one of the rarest cards. Only a few samples were produced and never went into production.

Oh I misread then. They made it sound like the card would somehow fit into earlier AGP slots and function appropriately. That would be pretty wild if that was the case. So what they're really saying is the chipset can support 66mhz.

Its technical as design not possible to fit a pci card inside a AGP slot.. What they ment is that the first version of AGP (what was using on the later pentium 1 motherboards) Can be used in the normal PCI mode (so the agp card would run on pci speed) or on AGP mode ( which would give you more speed)

But anyway wasn't it cause just like the V3 chipset, not really an AGP solution, more a native PCI?

386SX wrote:

But anyway wasn't it cause just like the V3 chipset, not really an AGP solution, more a native PCI?

The VSA-100 is apparently similar to this in that it takes no true advantage of the AGP stuff, but I've never owned a PCI version of that card so I can't say for sure.

I wish I had a PCI 66MHz board. I can't wait to see if a voodoo 2 can profit from the increased bandwith. 😎

Maraakate wrote:

The VSA-100 is apparently similar to this in that it takes no true advantage of the AGP stuff, but I've never owned a PCI version of that card so I can't say for sure.

Voodoo4 might use AGP features, but the Voodoo5 cards operate as PCI regardless of what any utilities report. It's the result of working around AGP not supporting multiple devices.

swaaye wrote:

Maraakate wrote:

The VSA-100 is apparently similar to this in that it takes no true advantage of the AGP stuff, but I've never owned a PCI version of that card so I can't say for sure.

Voodoo4 might use AGP features, but the Voodoo5 cards operate as PCI regardless of what any utilities report. It's the result of working around AGP not supporting multiple devices.

That's what I thought. I do remember reading early V5 6000 articles were people were confused and pissed off that there was a PCI bridge chip on the card itself. Despite not taking advantage of any AGP features I think the V5 performs OK for it's time. Not a truly excellent card, but can play Q3 at an OK frame rate which was popular at the time.

I've also noticed that depending on the CPU the Voodoo 3 in 640x480 can be comparable in speeds to the V5 at the same resolution in Q2DOS, but then again you don't have the frills like 2kx2k textures and 32-bit colouring... but Quake 1 and 2 didn't use that stuff anyways.

Robin4 wrote:

Its technical as design not possible to fit a pci card inside a AGP slot.. What they ment is that the first version of AGP (what was using on the later pentium 1 motherboards) Can be used in the normal PCI mode (so the agp card would run on pci speed) or on AGP mode ( which would give you more speed)

I knew it was a physically impossible fit, but I do recall having some early Socket 7 boards with shoddy AGP support and thought that it was a possibility that very early AGP boards from that era might have had a slightly different keyed connector that would allow somebody to force a PCI card into it. That's what I originally thought when I read that FAQ. 😖