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First post, by Nic-93

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What im thinking on is that from computer A that already has a os system on it, i'd install from that to computer B that is empty and have no system on it, all of the computer's are useing lan connection, shouldnt that be possible today? it should be installed with ms dos 6.2 and then with windows 95.

Reply 1 of 19, by PhilsComputerLab

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If you can get network booting going, I don't see why it wouldn't work.

Acronis and other disk image programs can also restore across the network.

I will be slower than from CD however.

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Reply 2 of 19, by Scali

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I know my university did that with Windows 9x back in the day, on the library computers.
They would just receive a fresh OS image everytime they booted, via PXE network boot.
It requires two things:
1) A computer with a network card that has a PXE-compatible boot rom (these ROMs are optional, and not found on most consumer network cards).
2) Another computer that acts as a PXE-compatible server (basically you need to provide DHCP and TFTP), to distribute the bootstrap and the actual image of the OSes you want to install.

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Reply 3 of 19, by Nic-93

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Its a realtek ethernet high speed lan card the computer has, as far i remember it on.
is there any open source versions of such software? and its for windows it should be.

Reply 4 of 19, by gdjacobs

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I PXE boot DOS images all the time. It would require some repacking, but I don't see a reason this couldn't be done.

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Reply 5 of 19, by Nic-93

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Could it be explained to me how i can do this pxe?
I hope this is not somekind of software i need to pay for.-

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Reply 7 of 19, by Nic-93

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I proberly forgot to tell i dont have a linux machine, im more windows.

Reply 8 of 19, by gdjacobs

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That's fine. PXELINUX is just an overlay on DHCPd / TFTPd which allows you to boot stuff. You can run all the server processes on Windows. Or you can do what I sometimes do and serve all the necessary stuff off your router.

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Reply 9 of 19, by Nic-93

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ah, so it's a program i can just boot and stil be in windows?

Reply 10 of 19, by gdjacobs

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Well, it's not Windows. PXE is a boot environment like El Torito for optical disks. PXELINUX is a set of tools and a configuration syntax which allows you to create a flexible PXE environment. It uses standardized services to operate, so you can use almost anything network enabled to deliver the required files.

Incidentally, PXELINUX has a sister program called ISOLINUX which does El Torito. Configuration is pretty much the same.

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Reply 11 of 19, by Nic-93

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But what should i start it up in?
i have a linksys router and i mean like how to boot it up since im new to it.

Reply 12 of 19, by gdjacobs

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You have to have something on your network which is running the right programs. It can be a Windows PC, a Linux computer, a sufficient flexible wireless router, etc. If you want to use Windows, look up how to set up DHCP and TFTP on a Windows computer. The remainder can be accomplished by following one of several online guides for configuring a PXE server.

I'll leave it to your judgment whether it's worth proceeding at this point, but this is the clearest way I can state the requirements.

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Reply 13 of 19, by Nic-93

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The computer have a windows system on it now, just did it with a cd, has anyone gotten installed driver's on it remotely without the computer had the internet connection on it?
its windows 98

Reply 14 of 19, by alexanrs

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If the PC is in a network you can just start an FTP server on your router and put the drivers there from a machine allowed to access the internet, but you need to get the NIC working in the first place.

Reply 15 of 19, by Nic-93

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Hmm, it wont matter that the computer have internet drivers on it or not?

Reply 16 of 19, by alexanrs

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"Internet Drivers"? Remember that networking and Internet aren't exactly the same thing. If you mean the NIC's drivers, then yes, they must be installed before you can access anything in the network like an FTP server.

Reply 17 of 19, by Nic-93

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Yeah, i meant the nic driver's, unfortanly im out of CD's, so i cant really do anything at the moment.

Reply 18 of 19, by alexanrs

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If you have another machine with IDE ports you can just install the HDD there as a secondary one and copy the drivers.

Reply 19 of 19, by Nic-93

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No i dont unfortanly, but i remember you can get someting to place them into as a external drive.