Maybe the early 1.4 and 1.5 are as most of the time i saw 1.6 and higher (with 1.8 and 2.0 beeing very common).

But the slow ones are beeing recycled for a long time now so maybe they all get rare. I don't mind, i only like the fastest ones and below that i prefer amd.

meljor wrote:

Maybe the early 1.4 and 1.5 are as most of the time i saw 1.6 and higher (with 1.8 and 2.0 beeing very common).

But the slow ones are beeing recycled for a long time now so maybe they all get rare. I don't mind, i only like the fastest ones and below that i prefer amd.

What sort of AMD's should I be looking for in that sort of speed?

The pentium 4's are not rare. The situation is: the newer the cpu / socket type, the more available it is & easy + cheap to get.
Availability:
socket 775 > 478 > 423

There is one exception: The pentium 4 extreme edition. It's for it's age quite expensive & requested from a lot of people & as a result: relatively rare

The Athlon's are almost common and cheap. Only for some mobile version's / steppings for high overclocking, you have to search + pay more...

Strangely, I have run across a half dozen P4 1.6's in my area, and every one of them has been a Gateway S500 series. I assume some large organization locally must have bought a lot of them and sold/gave them to employees for there to be so many in the wild. Fortunately, these mostly still work.

There are tons of P4/2.8's around here also, but almost always Dell, and almost always have bad caps on the boards and dead.

< 2GHz P4's are not rare. Maybe the 1.3GHz Willamette or if you're looking for a specific stepping of a 1.6A/1.8A Northwood.

Socket 423 P4s are quite rare outside of eBay. But the 478s? They're so common that I don't even bother with them anymore. I have eight 2.4 Northwoods in my CPU stash.

As far as the stickers go, Socket 423/478 machines almost always use this type:

While the LGA775 P4s *usually* use this one:

Some Pentium 4 systems are worth saving especially if they are suitable for future retro gaming, the oem cancer is mostly throw away especially if the psu is a fire hazard and the board is riddled with bloated or popped caps. If it doesn't have a agp or pci-e slot at all I wouldn't save it. Personally I take everything I can get my hands on and decide later if I want to save or scrap something.

Any socket 423 systems with rdram slots or one of the rare odd balls with a 3.3v agp slot is absolutely worth saving.
Be choosy with the 478 systems but generally the gaming and upper end workstation grade systems are worth it for fast 98 as well period correct XP gaming.

nforce4max wrote:

Some Pentium 4 systems are worth saving especially if they are suitable for future retro gaming, the oem cancer is mostly throw away especially if the psu is a fire hazard and the board is riddled with bloated or popped caps. If it doesn't have a agp or pci-e slot at all I wouldn't save it. Personally I take everything I can get my hands on and decide later if I want to save or scrap something.

Any socket 423 systems with rdram slots or one of the rare odd balls with a 3.3v agp slot is absolutely worth saving.
Be choosy with the 478 systems but generally the gaming and upper end workstation grade systems are worth it for fast 98 as well period correct XP gaming.

Some Socket 478 motherboards are not only worth saving, some are worth paying for.

I paid 30 euro + shipping a couple of days ago for a bare Asus P4G8X Deluxe motherboard! The Granite Bay chipset might suck compared to Canterwood but nice overclockable Granite Bay motherboards are much much rarer. 😀

Skyscraper wrote:

Some Socket 478 motherboards are not only worth saving, some are worth paying for.

I paid 30 euro + shipping a couple of days ago for a bare Asus P4G8X Deluxe motherboard! The Granite Bay chipset might suck compared to Canterwood but nice overclockable Granite Bay motherboards are much much rarer. 😀

Isn't that a server chipset (E7205)? Surprised they made it into a desktop board.

For me, I'm trying to get a P4T533, only 32bit RDRAM board.

dexvx wrote:

Skyscraper wrote:

Some Socket 478 motherboards are not only worth saving, some are worth paying for.

I paid 30 euro + shipping a couple of days ago for a bare Asus P4G8X Deluxe motherboard! The Granite Bay chipset might suck compared to Canterwood but nice overclockable Granite Bay motherboards are much much rarer. 😀

Isn't that a server chipset (E7205)? Surprised they made it into a desktop board.

For me, I'm trying to get a P4T533, only 32bit RDRAM board.

The Grantite Bay E7205 chipset (like Canterwood) was mainly intended for the workstation market as the memory is limited to 4GB but overclockable desktop motherboards does exist. E7505 (Placer) is able to handle 16GB memory and is for Xeon only, it was used in more expensive 1 or 2 CPU Workstations and small 2 CPU servers.

The P4T533 is a good choice, it's probably the best Intel 850E chipset motherboard. The cheaper P4T533-C can only do 156 MHz FSB and does not match (if you ask me) the Asus P4G8X Deluxe Graite Bay motherboard as the optimal year 2002 Socket 478 platform but the P4T533 probably could.

Here you are. New in box with cheap shipping. This motherboard has been in my watch list for a while and I do have suitable 232p memory for it. It's a motherboard I want but don't really need.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/P4T533-Asus-motherb … vUAAOSw2gxYtYnx

Skyscraper wrote:

nforce4max wrote:

Some Pentium 4 systems are worth saving especially if they are suitable for future retro gaming, the oem cancer is mostly throw away especially if the psu is a fire hazard and the board is riddled with bloated or popped caps. If it doesn't have a agp or pci-e slot at all I wouldn't save it. Personally I take everything I can get my hands on and decide later if I want to save or scrap something.

Any socket 423 systems with rdram slots or one of the rare odd balls with a 3.3v agp slot is absolutely worth saving.
Be choosy with the 478 systems but generally the gaming and upper end workstation grade systems are worth it for fast 98 as well period correct XP gaming.

Some Socket 478 motherboards are not only worth saving, some are worth paying for.

I paid 30 euro + shipping a couple of days ago for a bare Asus P4G8X Deluxe motherboard! The Granite Bay chipset might suck compared to Canterwood but nice overclockable Granite Bay motherboards are much much rarer. 😀

I surely paid for a couple of boards i really like. It is the p4p800 and p4c800 boards that i like: Late boards for highend 800fsb s478 cpu's and highend agp cards.

As suggested by Meljor, what amd's should I be looking at, that would run just as fast as p4's in the 1.5-2.5ghz variants?

bluejeans wrote:

As suggested by Meljor, what amd's should I be looking at, that would run just as fast as p4's in the 1.5-2.5ghz variants?

Any AthlonXP, with a decent motherboard and later VIA chipsets. Watch out for the newer southbridges (round metallic colored center). They are usually not covered with a heatsink and are easy to spot. Older ones only if they have ISA slots.

I have 2 pieces of Pentium 4 840, which was released as "Extreme edition". Got them for free in Dell Precision 380 desktops with dead RAM power caps, changed them and they are the only Pentium 4 era machines I am using today. It has 3.2 GHz and 64bit instruction set. First is running Linux Mint with 4 GB of RAM and passive cooled ASUS Nvidia GT 730? (visually looks perfectly the same but I think it is not 730, but way more lower end like 230 or something). It works great, it has Full HD display and plays videos flawlessly. Second one is running XP with 6GB of RAM and works perfect aswell.
What I wanted to say about this? Old P4s are being scrapped by tons today, nobody wants them. It will be quite some time until they got valuable. And that does not apply to P4 D and Extreme machines, those are still pretty darn expensive from what I have seen.