I'll let Vlad respond to this, I know he loves Another World/Out of this World questions... 😀

A couple notes:
DOS Version:
1. Requires SpeedSet.
showthread.php?s=&threadid=507
2. Requires the EmuPPDAC update to VDMSound:
showthread.php?s=&threadid=52

Windows version:
1. There's a Windows version - http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?name=Out+of+This+World
1a. Don't launch the Windows version full-screen, keep in windowed mode. If you want to try full-screen, make it full-screen after the Interplay logo displays.

...or play the Mac version, or use DosBox. EmuPPDAC may work, but it's not the best option there is (in terms of both sound and video).

V.

Ok now you 2 have lost me
After looking at the way to make it work with the dos ver i might as well goudge my eyes out trying to make sence of that mess.

So im opting for the windows ver when i go there

http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?name=Out+of+This+World

it says i can download the game but as you guessed it sever is forever busy if i try to get the files by specific file download
it says

To download a file inside this zip, type its full name of the file exactly as seen (case-sensitive) below, then press ENTER. The slashes and quotation marks must be used to get a long file name inside subdirectories. For example, to get a file called \Subdir\More\This Is a File.exe, you must type "Subdir/More/This Is a File.exe" without quotation marks. Note the forward slash (/) as well.

well thats all nice and good but now how the hell do i see the path of the files i want i cant find that anywere on the whole page.

Mac solution:
showthread.php?s=&threadid=492

Smelly wrote:

...it says i can download the game but as you guessed it sever is forever busy if i try to get the files by specific file download
it says...

Unless you are trying to get only certain, specific files, you need to use the main download.

IOW, under "Where to get it", you click on Here! [1007KB].

As far as "forever busy" is concerned, welcome to the Web. You'll simply need to retry at another time.

Also, remember that trying to download more than one file from Underdogs at the same time will trigger an automatic ban for a period of time.

Nicht Sehr Gut thanx for the info but im confused about the Mac thing

Are you talkn about emulating a mac on my pc & then running the game i have or do you meen get a MAC

If emulation of a MAC were do i find all the stuff i need to do that
I think i found some roms for the game there in some .shk

He's saying, emulate a Macintosh.

Ingredients:
1. Basilisk II for Windows NT: http://gamma.nic.fi/~lpesonen/BasiliskII/
(Almost all other Basilisk ports: http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bauec002/B2Main.html)

2. A Macintosh BIOS ROM. Note that there's legal issues in downloading this online, and to legally do this, you should already own a Macintosh.
http://www.emaculation.com/macemu/roms.htm
http://www.emaculation.com/roms.html

Generally, to run OS 8.1, you'd want a Quadra ROM. http://www.the-underdogs.org/nonpc.php#a1

3. Either a Macintosh OS CDROM or what's called a "hardfile". Note that it's illegal to download a hardfile from the Internet.
You can generally run anywhere from OS7.x to OS8.1 on Basilisk

4. A nice how-to article for newbies...
http://www.emaculation.com/articles/intro.html
http://www.iluvdragons.net/drinn/emulation_mac.html

5. A few other links to look at:
http://balder.prohosting.com/newtonip/mac.html
http://emufever.romov.net/os-bios.html
http://www.lofi-gaming.org.uk/emulation/essentialfiles.shtml

6. Get the game. You may want to try Home of the Underdogs.
http://mac.the-underdogs.org

If you view the link Nicht provided, you'll see reasons why you may want to emulate the Macintosh version rather than attempt to run the DOS (or the Windows) version in Windows XP.
showthread.php?s=&threadid=492

Nicht can fill you in with more info if you are interested.

So guys, hey, is it illegal to provide interesting links like above? 😀

Not ALL of that information is quite true. Apple released MacOS 7.5.1 for free (as in beer).

I find that "Executor" works better since it doesn't need to run the program on the OS on the program, just the program on the program. It's nifty. I've ALWAYS had problems with Basilisk II. ALWAYS.

Finally, since when has HotU's download server had a max # of concurrent users?

Stiletto wrote:

He's saying, emulate a Macintosh.

Correct.

2. A Macintosh BIOS ROM. Note that there's legal issues in downloading this online, and to legally do this, you should already own a Macintosh.

Also correct. It's the one legality "snag". Actually, I believe that it's just the ROM you need to own (like myself) but it's probably cheaper and easier to just buy a dead mac to be in legal compliance, then download an extracted romfile.

Generally, to run OS 8.1, you'd want a Quadra ROM.

7.5.3 was the last freely available OS. If you want any higher you need to buy it. It's not really needed anyway (except for that one hacked PPC game).

...what's called a "hardfile".

Once you finish installing the OS on a hardfile and it's running properly. You should immediately make a backup of it. This way, if you ever hose your OS partition, you can replace it easily without going through the tedious OS install process.

Another hint is to have two hardfiles: One for the OS, one for games,etc... Makes it easier to maintain (IE: you can wipe the game partition clean without wiping out your OS).

Nicht can fill you in with more info if you are interested.

You just about covered everything Mr. Better-keep-his-grade-average-up.

So guys, hey, is it illegal to provide interesting links like above?

I don't think it's illegal, but you should note that question reads a lot like: "Hey, was that a STOP sign back there?"

Hi people,

I've tried the mac version, but it's too fast to be playable. Changed the processor emulation to 68020 and set the resolution to 640x400, but it didn't help at all.

The Windows version plays at the correct speed, but it's extremely ugly (graphics and sound wise).

And the dos version is painfully slow.

Tried also DosBox 0.56, but with my Celeron at 633 MHz it's still too slow to be playable.

I think that the best solution would be to slow down the Mac version, but how do I do that?

EDIT: I've just tried the amiga version with WinUAE, and it works very well. Both sound and video are played at the correct speed; so I have settled for this version, to me it's perfect.
However, I'm still curious to know how to slow down mac emulation with Basilisk II. If you know how, please tell me. I'll be grateful.

Infinite thanks,
Regards.

Leolo wrote:

I've tried the mac version, but it's too fast to be playable. Changed the processor emulation to 68020 and set the resolution to 640x400, but it didn't help at all.

*sigh* Another "Twilight Zone episode. I'm presuming that this was on Basilisk and not using "Executor". I'm not sure what the issue could be as it works fine for me even when it's emulating a 68040 (still recommend a 68020 to keep audio and video in synch).

The bizarre part is that you're running at 633MHz and I'm running at 1.7GHz. If one of us were running too fast, it should be me. Only thing I can I think of would be to turn off the FPU emulation as well.

The Windows version plays at the correct speed, but it's extremely ugly (graphics and sound wise).

Did you try checking all the options under the compatibility mode? (Especially the "Run in 256 colors" option).

EDIT: I've just tried the amiga version with WinUAE, ... so I have settled for this version, to me it's perfect.

Well that's good to hear. That's the original so there shouldn't be any missing scenes/data/whatever. Hopefully you're not playing from an emulated floppy. Most European programmers seemed to ignore the multiple floppy drive support, so you had a lot of European programmers who created games that required you to swap out floppy disks in the 1st drive even if you had four of them. Unfortunately, Another World is like that.

The good news is that, unlike many of those other European games, Another World is easily hard-drive installable. Just create a directory/drawer and drag the files from both disks and run "another" when done. Also good is that it's processor-tolerant (unlike most other European games again), runs fine even with a 68040.

Hi Nicht Sehr Gut,

Actually, I'm playing the floppy disk version (two .ADF files). And, yes, you're right, it's a pain to have to swap the floppy disks in some parts of the game. Most other games I've tried did recognize the other floppy drives.

But I can live with that. Hey, I still remember when my father bought me an Amiga 500 with its super-fast floppy drive; and my friends, who still had to suffer the sluggish tapes of their spectrum computers, were green with envy!!

However, (oh, how times are changing) I'll gladly follow your advice, and I'm going to google for a copy of the workbench right now.

Regarding the Basilisk II issue: I'm using the Windows port, build 142 by Lauri Pesonen. I'm running it under WinXP SP1.
I got an .HFV file which contained MacOS 8 (North American version), and I upgraded it to MacOS 8.1 with the update available in Apple's FTP site.

The CRC of the bios I'm using is FF7439EE. And the game itself was downloaded from The Underdogs site.

Should I try with a different version of Mac OS ? Could the speed problems be related to MacOS 8 ?

Thanks a lot.
Regards.

Leolo wrote:

... it's a pain to have to swap the floppy disks in some parts of the game. Most other games I've tried did recognize the other floppy drives.

Seemed like the Amiga couldn't get a break. Their parent company barely supported the machine (relying on third-party companies, computer clubs and other end-users for most support), European programmers (tended to) treat it like a game console (trashing the OS and directly hitting the hardware), and American programmers treated it like it was a odd kind of PC-clone (ignoring it's superior video modes and audio capacity). Oh well.

Should I try with a different version of Mac OS? Could the speed problems be related to MacOS 8 ?

Really can't tell you on this. If anything, I would think that running OS8 would make it run even slower. I'd be amazed to see it run faster than OS7.5.1 on a 680x0 processor.

Anything else? If not, I should probably close the thread.

Leolo - for Basilisk II problems, I recommend going to Delphi Forums. There's several forums with resident Basilisk II experts there.

I recommend this one:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/MacEmulation/start

You may also want to look at Emaculation.com, although it's seen better days.

I would definitely suggest trying Executor with it instead of Basilisk II. As I've mentioned before, I've seen better results with it over Basilisk.