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First post, by kizumonotatchi

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Hi guys,

So I recently acquired myself and old IBM PC 5155 for about 50 bucks. The computer was in really good condition and it came with 3 hard-cover manuals about DOS, Basic and general use along with some 50 floppies, mostly loaded with word processing applications or games. However, I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to old computers and such so I was wondering how to actually get software on this thing. The most practical way would probably be to get one of those compact flash adapters but they all seem sold out or really expensive. I'm specifically looking to get some demos running on this thing and whatever else I can find that will actually run since this thing has an 8088.

tl;dr: What is the most efficent and easiest way to transfer software to this PC from an modern computer?

Reply 1 of 9, by Errius

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Does it have a hard drive?

If your "modern" computer has a parallel port you can use DOS INTERLNK/INTERSVR to transfer files.

Is this too much voodoo?

Reply 2 of 9, by Scali

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Serial port is probably easier than parallel port (nulmodem cables are more standardized than bidirectional parallel port stuff).
If your modern PC doesn't have serial, you can get some cheap Chinese USB-to-RS323 cable. That is what I use most of the time. I use a copy of FastLynx under Windows, and the bundled DOS slave on my 8088 machine.

Another reasonably common medium is the 3.5" floppy drive. You can still get USB floppy drives for modern PCs. If you then put a 3.5" (possibly DD/720k only supported) drive in the 5155, you can transfer data that way.
Either that, or another old PC with both a 3.5" and a 5.25" drive. Note however, that the 5155 will have a DD/360k drive, and HD 5.25" drives cannot reliably write floppies for use in DD drives. So the 5.25" drive would have to be DD in the other PC as well. 3.5" floppies do not have this limitation.

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Reply 3 of 9, by kizumonotatchi

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Errius wrote:

Does it have a hard drive?

If your "modern" computer has a parallel port you can use DOS INTERLNK/INTERSVR to transfer files.

No it does not have a hard drive, only two 360KB 5.25-inch floppy drives. Thats why its a bit tricky since I cannot actually store anything on this computer.

Reply 4 of 9, by kizumonotatchi

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Forgot to add that no HDD is installed in the computer, so was thinking that maybe I could kill two birds with one stone like the CF solution or something along those lines.

Reply 5 of 9, by kizumonotatchi

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After a bit of research I came across this forum post: Re: Parallel Port Compact Flash card reader for very old PCs

Has anyone tried a similar solution? Would it even work as a replacement for a HDD? If it did work, this would definitely solve the problem I'm currently faced with.

Reply 6 of 9, by chinny22

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Not sure if the above would work but the most common solution for adding HDD's to early PC's is XTIDE
http://www.xtideuniversalbios.org

Reply 7 of 9, by PCBONEZ

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I barely remember the old IBMs so I may be off in left field..

Doesn't using a hard drive require an add-in controller card?
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Reply 8 of 9, by Scali

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PCBONEZ wrote:

I barely remember the old IBMs so I may be off in left field..

Doesn't using a hard drive require an add-in controller card?
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Yes, on 5150/5155/5160 machines, only the CPU, memory and keyboard interface are on the mainboard basically.
Everything else is on ISA cards (CGA or MDA video card, floppy controller, serial and parallel port, etc). However, the 5155 and 5160 should usually come with a HDD and controller card as standard (I believe floppy-only models were only available later, and were rather useless... these are business machines).
Of course if the HDD is missing from this 5155, chances are the controller is as well... and even if it isn't, it's the old, now uncommon MFM standard. Which is why cards like the XT-IDE are so popular: they can be used with 'modern' HDD-like devices.

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Reply 9 of 9, by PCBONEZ

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Scali wrote:

Of course if the HDD is missing from this 5155, chances are the controller is as well...

That's what I was thinking....

Scali wrote:

and even if it isn't, it's the old, now uncommon MFM standard.

And that too. I remember that most of them had RLL or MFM instead of IDE.
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