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First post, by CarlHopkinsUK

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So after a little absence from Vogons and having to sell all my retro pc stuff (thankfully all to other enthusiasts) - due to splitting from my long term partner and (ex) fiancee, and dealing with all the crap that brings with a house, banks, paperwork, and finding somewhere to live of course!

After getting settled down again i picked this little wonder up this week...

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Toshiba T1800 Laptop from 1991 - 20mhz 386, no math co-pro, 2mb ram, 40mb hdd etc... and of course a monochrome STN display.

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Unfortunately it does not boot and the in built BIOS suggests the HDD is dead - so a little tear down is in order.

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Reply 1 of 11, by CarlHopkinsUK

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Stripping down reveals a the largest 2.5" hdd i have ever seen...

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Looks like normal IDE however, so my just drop a compact flash or something in here.

Whilst i was there i took a look at the built in 3.5" floppy drive, unfortunately it has a ribbon cable attachement...so seems a gotek is out of the question. Hopefully the drive will work with a clean up and service.

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Reply 2 of 11, by LHN91

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I've got an almost identical looking, slightly newer unit, the T1910CS. 25Mhz 486, 4 MB of RAM, Colour STN screen. essentially the same chassis though.

Looking forward to your teardown and to seeing what you do with it!

Reply 3 of 11, by Deksor

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I've got that laptop. The HDD is just stuck in some way. Disassemble it and move the platters ans it might come back to life ! (I've fixed 2 Conner HDDs if that kind that way and now they're perfectly fine 😀 ). I as also remember having to unscrew the heads and screw them back on attend least one offre them but i'm notre sure if that's also required

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Reply 5 of 11, by CarlHopkinsUK

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Deksor wrote:

I've got that laptop. The HDD is just stuck in some way. Disassemble it and move the platters ans it might come back to life ! (I've fixed 2 Conner HDDs if that kind that way and now they're perfectly fine 😀 ). I as also remember having to unscrew the heads and screw them back on attend least one offre them but i'm notre sure if that's also required

Ah ok cool! Thanks for the tip, i will give that a try.

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Reply 6 of 11, by Deksor

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Whoops I just noticed, sorry for some words being wrong, text correction ...

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Reply 7 of 11, by modbus

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CarlHopkinsUK wrote:

Whilst i was there i took a look at the built in 3.5" floppy drive, unfortunately it has a ribbon cable attachement...so seems a gotek is out of the question. Hopefully the drive will work with a clean up and service.

It is possible to connect Gotek Floppy Emulator. I had a broken belt in Citizen W1D floppy drive in my Digital HiNote Ultra CT475 docking station, and I made an adapter from 26 pin floppy to 34 pin Gotek, put Gotek inside, and it worked well. Now my 486 laptop has USB port sticking from one side 😀

Reply 8 of 11, by CarlHopkinsUK

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modbus wrote:

It is possible to connect Gotek Floppy Emulator. I had a broken belt in Citizen W1D floppy drive in my Digital HiNote Ultra CT475 docking station, and I made an adapter from 26 pin floppy to 34 pin Gotek, put Gotek inside, and it worked well. Now my 486 laptop has USB port sticking from one side 😀

Thats good to know that they work that way at least. I know there is a slimline version of the gotek available, so getting something to fit at least should be possible.

Likewise, the belt has failed in this as well, rest of the drive looks fine.

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Reply 9 of 11, by CarlHopkinsUK

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Deksor wrote:

I've got that laptop. The HDD is just stuck in some way. Disassemble it and move the platters ans it might come back to life ! (I've fixed 2 Conner HDDs if that kind that way and now they're perfectly fine 😀 ). I as also remember having to unscrew the heads and screw them back on attend least one offre them but i'm notre sure if that's also required

So i gave Deksor's suggestion a go...so apart again

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...and inside

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Unfortunately, the heads move freely so its not this causing issues...

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Reply 10 of 11, by Deksor

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That's how it was for me as well, but when I reassembled it, it worked again. Try to power it on while it's open

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