God Of Gaming wrote on 2020-12-09, 22:34:
So, you're saying wolfdale is a no go. So the Pentium E5800 that's in my AsRock Conroe865PE won't do then. How about a C2D E4700? The fastest fsb800 conroe? Because afaik these i865 core 2 mobos like my old Conroe865PE and the popular 775i65g don't really like fsb1066 cpus? And this DFI is quite similar to them, ISA slots asside? So it probably has the same issues, with memory multipliers not working correctly with higher fsb cpus?
You can try E5800, no one forbids it. It wil work on FSB400 only (forget about 533-666-800), available multipliers in BIOS setup are 6-15. X16 you can reach in OS. And I do not guarantee E5x00 stable work. But you can try it. If you use only Win98 on this mobo the FSB400, CPU 1500MHz and Dual Channel DDR266 is absolutely enough! And: if you do not know 😀 - Wolfdale CPUs do appear in Windows 98 as Pentium 3 😀 Conroes do not.
I never had E4700 but think it seems best for G7S620-N (after X6800) because has max multiplier x13. All other 'regular' not extreme Conroes have less multipliers. You can not run FSB faster than 200MHz and therefore you very need multiplier as high as it possible. Yes, E4700 seems very good choice. I did want to try it but had not, then just bought X6800. Never tried E4700.
One more time: if you use Windows 98 only you need not all these Conroe/Presler/Smithfield and higher frequencies. Take Gallatin or Cedar Mill and have fun. By the way this mobo supports Gallatin and its L3 cache. Or try E5800 on lower FSB.
God Of Gaming wrote on 2020-12-09, 22:34:
just go overkill in all ways
😀 Play as you wish. It's very interesting to try different ways. I just said that single Windows 98 does not need all these X850, 6800 Ultra etc. Not advisable 😀
cyclone3d wrote on 2020-12-09, 22:37:
Ok, cool. I should try the Goldfinch and Gun PnP on one of my industrial S478 setups with ISA and the ITE 8888 PCI-ISA bridge.
I would be somewhat surprised if they didn't work. Or is it known that they will not work with ICH5?
It is true for sure about ICH5.
God Of Gaming wrote on 2020-12-09, 22:34:
ideally I wouldn't want to add a secondary pci graphics card, because I can see myself using up all pci and isa slots for multiple different sound cards, probably with separate windows install for each sound card to try to avoid driver conflicts
OK, I understand. For example now my setup is:
AGP - Radeon HD3850
PCI1 - Quadro FX500 (FX5200 Ultra analog)
PCI2 - empty
PCI3 - Aureal A3D AU8830 (not MX300)
PCI4 - Audigy1 SB0160
ISA - Terratec EWS64 XL SPDIF out + NEC XR385 SPDIF out mod
ISA - Audio Excel AV310 CMI8330A SPDIF out
ISA - GUS Ace
ISA - AWE 64Gold SPDIF out
SoftMPU with Roland MT-32
Roland SCB-55 in external box
All ISA sound cards are configured simultaneously at the same time and haven't conflicts:
EWS64 --- IO544 IO220 IRQ7 DMA1 FM100
AV310 --- IO534 IRQ11 IO240 IRQ5 DMA0 DMA5 FM398
GUS --- IO250 IRQ3 DMA7 FM-OFF
64Gold --- IO260 IRQ9 DMA3 DMA6 E640 FM-OFF
SoftMPU uses IRQ9 of AWE64 and it is equivalent IRQ2. ACPI is on IRQ10.
All sound cards and modules are routed to Audigy card via digital and analog tracts. Audigy mixes and outputs joint signal with very good quality. In Windows 98 Creative's VxD driver is used. In DOS there is Multichannel DOS mixer for DOS sound builds v0.49 for Live, v1.01 for Audigy, it is not resident, does not 'eat' RAM and does not need Creative's DOS driver, EMM386 etc.