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First post, by ultranothing

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Well, as the title suggests, I'm working on an old Win98se machine - a Gateway 2000 model E-3110. I've got an aftermarket CD-burner and two 120gb IDE drives set as master/slave...well, it's a fun project.

Anyway, I'm trying to get the Soundblaster CT4170 working in DOS mode. It's working fine in WIndows! But what's going on is, if I restart in MS-DOS mode, I'm brought to the C:\ but when I type in "ver" it's saying "Windows 98 [Version 4.1.2222]"

Have I been fooled for all these years into thinking that "restart in MS-DOS mode" was the path to pure DOS?

How I found out was that I was running the install.exe for the sound card and it came up saying, "hey! This program is only for DOS and Windows 95!"

How *do* I get into pure DOS from Windows 98se?

Reply 1 of 7, by keenmaster486

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It is pure DOS.

The version command reports "Windows 98" even though you are in pure DOS mode, because it's the special "Windows 98 DOS" (i.e. MS-DOS version 7.1) that allows loading of Win9x on top of it.

Basically it is identical to DOS 6.22 except for FAT32 support and allowing Windows 9x to load on top of it. I even use it for all my pure DOS stuff because of the FAT32 support.

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Reply 2 of 7, by ultranothing

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keenmaster486 wrote:

It is pure DOS.

The version command reports "Windows 98" even though you are in pure DOS mode, because it's the special "Windows 98 DOS" (i.e. MS-DOS version 7.1) that allows loading of Win9x on top of it.

Basically it is identical to DOS 6.22 except for FAT32 support and allowing Windows 9x to load on top of it. I even use it for all my pure DOS stuff because of the FAT32 support.

Well...it appears to be not DOS enough to be recognized as DOS by certain software that needs to be run in DOS mode. Such as the aforementioned SB16 driver installer. I'm reading now about how to dual-boot Win98 and DOS 6.22, so maybe that's the only option since what I need is "real" DOS.

Reply 3 of 7, by maxtherabbit

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again, it is pure DOS

the creative DOS utilities are just a bitch, if you look for a "DOS 7.1 SB16 driver package" or somesuch on vogons drivers you will find what you need

Reply 4 of 7, by keenmaster486

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Some software detects "Windows" in the version string, or something like that, and refuses to run.

Windows 3.1, for example, won't start in DOS 7.1 because it thinks Windows is already running or something. There is a patch to remove the detection code because, it being real pure DOS, works just fine.

A lot of software didn't know about DOS 7.1 when it was created.

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Reply 5 of 7, by Cobra42898

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is it possible to patch io.sys or whatever to simply display dos 7.1 or 6.25 or whatever so this doesn't occur?

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Reply 6 of 7, by Warlord

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you can spoof it with Setver, I could be wrong.

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setver 6.22

Reply 7 of 7, by maxtherabbit

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the CTCU plug and play configuration utility actually looks for an environment variable that's automatically set in DOS 7.x, there is a patched version around that removes the check and then works fine