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First post, by brian105

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My MediaGX is running (again) but because the CPU is basically a 5x86, it's not very quick in Windows 95, so I thought of putting 3.1 on it. However, there are no 3.1 drivers that I could find, only 95 and 98. The chipset is CX5510 to my knowledge, with a MediaGX non MMX at 133 mhz. If anybody can find 3.1 drivers, that would be great!

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Reply 1 of 14, by BSA Starfire

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I looked extensively some years ago for them for my Compaq Presario 2232(same cpu and chipset as you mention) with no luck at all, your right it's slow in 95 although that's the os Compaq shipped it with.
Hoping someone does have them as it'd make a much nicer dos/win 3.1 machine.

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Reply 2 of 14, by radiounix

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Even a DX4 or Pentium 75 should have the performance to run Windows 95 with the kind of responsivity we are used to on modern machines. It's pretty usable on much less, basically anything 486-class. Maybe you need more RAM? An OSR1 install is okay in 8MB if you keep it lean, but OSR2 breathes better in 16MB especially if you want to multitask or open larger software. You might also have a very slow hard drive holding back loading times.

Another thought, if you're running OSR2, did you let the OS install IE 4? This integrates IE with the file manager apparently, and is supposed to slow the machine and increase the base system memory usage.

Reply 4 of 14, by brian105

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IE4 is not installed, I know the web shell is very slow. The machine has 22mb RAM (seems a ram chip died, was originally 24) and a Quantum Bigfoot 2.1gb, which probably contributes to the slowness by a lot.

Presario 5284: K6-2+ 550 ACZ @ 600 2v, 256MB PC133, GeForce4 MX 440SE 64MB, MVP3, Maxtor SATA/150 PCI card, 16GB Sandisk U100 SATA SSD
2007 Desktop: Athlon 64 X2 6000+, Asus M2v-MX SE, Foxconn 7950GT 512mb, 4GB DDR2 800, Audigy 2 ZS, WinME/XP

Reply 5 of 14, by candle_86

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That big foot doesn't help, it's what a 3600rpm drive right? Around 95 we had 5400rpm drives with 7200rpm in server grade stuff, while 3600rpm was reserved for value hard drives and where dirt slow

Reply 6 of 14, by Deksor

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I have a Compaq laptop with that CPU as well and I don't find it slow. It actually feels like a low-end pentium to me and not a 486.

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Reply 7 of 14, by derSammler

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I have a MediaGXi-based notebook running at 166 MHz with 32 MB RAM. It has Win98SE installed and absolutely no issues running this. I can't believe yours is too slow for even Win95.

Anyway, for mine there are drivers for 9x and NT only, too. The sound is SB Pro compatible, however, so no driver needed for Win3.1 - just use the included one. As for graphics, you could try the SVGA drivers or a VESA driver (will certainly work, but slow).

Reply 8 of 14, by will1384

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I have the video drivers for the MediaGX chip, they are in the file called "MediaGX.exe" that you can fin on the Internet, inside that file are drivers for Win3.1, Win9x , and WinNT, the "MediaGX.exe" file is 2.3MB in size, and you can extract it with 7Zip if you don't want to fun it.

I had also found another file on the internet named "PCM-3350_VGA_Win31.zip" that is 222kB that seems to have MediaGX Win3.1 video drivers.

For sound with the MediaGX under DOS and Win3.1 use the Sound Blaster 16 drivers.

BTW I have a DOS/Win3.11/Win98SE setup on a Neoware Capio, one 16GB FAT32 partition on a SD card to IDE adapter, it's got a GX1 at 300MHz, and it is a tad slow in Windows 98SE, but I believe it's the video hardware, the BIOS limits you to 4MB of video memory, and you can play card and puzzle games and stuff like DXBall in Win98SE, but you are not going to be able to play any 3D games, I tried Unreal Tournament 1999 just for fun, and got single digit frame rate, 🤣.

Reply 9 of 14, by brian105

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I can't seem to find the exact file of MediaGX.exe, nor can I find anything by searching mediagx windows 3.1 drivers. I did however manage to find the PCM-3350 file, I will test it soon.

Presario 5284: K6-2+ 550 ACZ @ 600 2v, 256MB PC133, GeForce4 MX 440SE 64MB, MVP3, Maxtor SATA/150 PCI card, 16GB Sandisk U100 SATA SSD
2007 Desktop: Athlon 64 X2 6000+, Asus M2v-MX SE, Foxconn 7950GT 512mb, 4GB DDR2 800, Audigy 2 ZS, WinME/XP

Reply 10 of 14, by derSammler

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The file apparently exists, but all links go to DriverGuide or DriverEasy, which try to push malware onto your PC. I guess that's why "will1384" didn't just attach the file - he found it but could not download it either.

Did you try using the VESA drivers for Win3.x?

Reply 11 of 14, by Jo22

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^I for one tried the some VESA VBE drivers for Windows 3.1 and they do work on my Surfstation JNT.
640x480 pels in 256c is all I need, anyway, since the output is CVBS in NTSC/PAL resolution (depends on jumper setting).
I also confirm that Creative's SB16 drivers work with the MediaGX' fake SB16.

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Reply 12 of 14, by brian105

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I found a MediaGX.exe which isn't virus infested and does seem to extract drivers for 3.1. Just press the left button when it opens; it seems to be in another language.
Also attached PCM-3350 just for reference.

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    MediaGX.exe
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Presario 5284: K6-2+ 550 ACZ @ 600 2v, 256MB PC133, GeForce4 MX 440SE 64MB, MVP3, Maxtor SATA/150 PCI card, 16GB Sandisk U100 SATA SSD
2007 Desktop: Athlon 64 X2 6000+, Asus M2v-MX SE, Foxconn 7950GT 512mb, 4GB DDR2 800, Audigy 2 ZS, WinME/XP

Reply 13 of 14, by chrismeyer6

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I would definitely try a faster hard drive or a cf to ide adpater those Bigfoot drives are slow as a boot drive but they aren't bad as a storage drive with a faster hard drive for boot/os use.

Reply 14 of 14, by will1384

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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2020-05-03, 20:23:

I would definitely try a faster hard drive or a cf to ide adpater those Bigfoot drives are slow as a boot drive but they aren't bad as a storage drive with a faster hard drive for boot/os use.

If you do use a CF or SD to IDE adapter, make sure to use the correct cylinders, heads, and sectors for your SD or CF card, the computers BIOS will often not see them correctly, and sometime the BIOS's "AUTO" detection does a poor job, also the SD adapters them self will often say "16383 cylinders 16 heads 63 sectors" for larger than 8GB SD cards to maintain compatibility with older hardware/software, and then when you go to partition and format your SD or CF drive with DOS using the bogus BIOS hard drive settings, the drive will be a different size than it should be, or it will start to get corrupted with use.

You can use "GParted" to see the cylinders, heads, and sectors for an SD or CF card, and also partition and format a SD or CF card, then use the cylinders, heads, and sectors from "GParted" to set you BIOS hard drive settings, also once you have your SD or CF set up the way you like it make a back-up.

BTW I would use "GParted" on a "modern" computer or Linux desktop and use a SD or CF to USB adapter.