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Windows 3.11 WFG - running out memory - need help.

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First post, by p6889k

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When I try to install applications under Windows 3.11 WFG, I get an error message "there is not enough memory to start the specified application". I tried installing Winzip, WinImage, Total Commander and even Y2K compatible version of File Manager fails to start.

HW Config
EliteGroup UM386 rev1 board
Intel 386DX/33 + Intel 387/33
64kb cache
8MB ram (8x1MB 70ns)
Soundblaster Pro 2.0 CT1600
Tseng ET4000AX 1MB
3COM 3C509B-C network card
Vitex-EV371 I/O
MS-Mouse on COM1

Sequence of SW Installed (Fresh):
MSDOS 6.22
SounBlaster 2.0 setup from floppy
Windows 3.11
TCPIP v.3.11b driver; file sharing enabled
Disabled "Network DDE" under Control Panel -> Network -> Startup
Disabled prompting for login name/password under Control Panel -> Network -> Startup
Installed Lotus AmiPro 3.1

Autoexec.bat - I manually REM the net start command to see if that would help, but it didn't, otherwise it's all autogenerated
REM C:\WINDOWS\net start
SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 T4
SET SOUND=C:\SBPRO
C:\SBPRO\SBP-SET /M:12 /VOC:12 /CD:12 /FM:12
C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE /X
@ECHO OFF
PROMPT $p$g
PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\DOS
SET TEMP=C:\DOS

Config.sys - I manually REM the setver.exe command to see if that would help, but it didn't, otherwise it's all autogenerated
REM DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DOS=HIGH
FILES=30
LASTDRIVE=Z
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
STACKS=9,256

Attached are screenshots of command prompt run from within windows using mem /c /p

Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48k, 48k+, 128k, +2
Amiga 1200, 68030/40mhz
386DX/33, ET4000, SBPro2, MT32
Dual PPro/200, Millennium II, Voodoo 2, AWE32, SC-55
etc.

Reply 1 of 4, by p6889k

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I have also tried using the Fix1MB utility, but that didn't help, even when I used the "Worst case mode" and added it to auto startup in System.Ini. Here is a screenshot of what it shows:

Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48k, 48k+, 128k, +2
Amiga 1200, 68030/40mhz
386DX/33, ET4000, SBPro2, MT32
Dual PPro/200, Millennium II, Voodoo 2, AWE32, SC-55
etc.

Reply 2 of 4, by p6889k

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And here are the contents of [boot] section in system.ini

[boot]
shell=progman.exe
network.drv=wfwnet.drv
mouse.drv=mouse.drv
language.dll=
sound.drv=mmsound.drv
comm.drv=comm.drv
keyboard.drv=keyboard.drv
system.drv=system.drv
386grabber=VGADIB.3GR
oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon
fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon
fonts.fon=vgasys.fon
display.drv=SVGA256.DRV
drivers=C:\DATA\FIX1MB\FX1MBDLL.DLL mmsystem.dll

Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48k, 48k+, 128k, +2
Amiga 1200, 68030/40mhz
386DX/33, ET4000, SBPro2, MT32
Dual PPro/200, Millennium II, Voodoo 2, AWE32, SC-55
etc.

Reply 3 of 4, by p6889k

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I resolved the problem. It turned out to be really dumb mistake on my part somewhere. I decided to reinstall windows and this time using Windows 3.11 regular version and not WFG and still experienced the same issue. Hmm...could maybe something be wrong with the files I'm trying to install...so I redownloaded the apps that wouldn't work, copied them onto the PC and they worked. So somehow the previous version was corrupted or I didn't have 16bit version of the files but 32bit versions. The fact that several of them didn't work at first led me to believe something is wrong with Windows vs the files I'm trying to install.

Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48k, 48k+, 128k, +2
Amiga 1200, 68030/40mhz
386DX/33, ET4000, SBPro2, MT32
Dual PPro/200, Millennium II, Voodoo 2, AWE32, SC-55
etc.

Reply 4 of 4, by mlrSRT8

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Hi,
I just stumbled across your thread and I looked over your CONFIG.SYS. Have your tried adding the EMM386 manager right below the HIMEM.SYS line ?

DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE RAM
DOS=HIGH,UMB

I think the “out of memory” message comes from not loading EMM386 and therefore having to expanded memory only extended.

It’s a guess, but try it.

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