VOGONS


First post, by Sphere478

User metadata
Rank l33t++
Rank
l33t++

For decades it was generally accepted that the k63+ was the king of socket 7

But with pentium 1 tillamooks now working in motherboards and reaching overclocks of 533mhz and k62+ reaching over 800mhz

It makes me wonder,

Maybe we to do a new show down,

Stock clocks, the k63+ is probably still the winner in most benchmarks but what if the rules were that it had to be socket 7 and overclocks were welcome.

Who wins then?
Overclocked rise, intel, amd, ibm, cyrix?

I think it’s still the k63+ but just want to ask and be sure 😉

I’m thinking of doing another socket 7 project, this time a super socket 7 with overclocking. Possibly even phase change. But we’ll see.

Sphere's PCB projects.
-
Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
-
SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
-
Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 1 of 8, by Warlord

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

all those scores are with golden samples cooled with LN2. Speaking for myself I'm not intrested in overclocking socket 7s with Ln2 just becasue. It's not practicle for daily use.

Reply 2 of 8, by Sphere478

User metadata
Rank l33t++
Rank
l33t++
Warlord wrote on 2021-10-22, 05:42:

all those scores are with golden samples cooled with LN2. Speaking for myself I'm not intrested in overclocking socket 7s with Ln2 just becasue. It's not practicle for daily use.

Yes yes of course. But that is allowed under this question.

The absolute best even with crazy cooling.

Sphere's PCB projects.
-
Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
-
SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
-
Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 3 of 8, by Doornkaat

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

I have to agree with Warlord. If you're looking for the single fastest S7 chip you can never know if there isn't/hasn't been another slightly better chip that just hasn't been tested. It's always the best chip so far tested under ideal conditions. Maybe there are even chips that'll reach a higher fsb than any motherboard can handle so we can't even compare them at all?
Keep in mind those extreme overclocks aren't stable either. Usually they'll crash a couple of times before finally completing the benchmark that you're seeing the results of.
I personally think it's much more interesting which model regularly reaches a high and stable overclock while still being suitable for regular use. That's the "king" imho.

Reply 4 of 8, by Warlord

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

I have all these unfinished builds, and heaps of broken things I want to fix. So ya, right now the best retro PC I have is actually a retro laptop if you haven't heard.

Reply 5 of 8, by Jasin Natael

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

LN2 doesn't count

Reply 6 of 8, by H3nrik V!

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

Can't imagine anyone above K6-3+, except if the less cache of the K6-2+ makes more headroom for overclocking, thus overtake the cache advantage by sheer clock speed ..

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

--- GA586DX --- P2B-DS --- BP6 ---

Please use the "quote" option if asking questions to what I write - it will really up the chances of me noticing 😀

Reply 7 of 8, by Horun

User metadata
Rank l33t++
Rank
l33t++
H3nrik V! wrote on 2021-10-22, 21:11:

Can't imagine anyone above K6-3+, except if the less cache of the K6-2+ makes more headroom for overclocking, thus overtake the cache advantage by sheer clock speed ..

Agree !! If like Pentium Pro 200's some of the 256k cache ones could be pushed to near 250Mhz but the 512k and 1Mb versions almost never ran stable at 233mhz but some 512k might do 225Mhz iirc
so yes smaller cache could allow faster overclock, like in the Celerons 😁

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun