Failed at using SATA to IDE for old computer and Windows 98. Not detected. \ VOGONS

Failed at using SATA to IDE for old computer and Windows 98. Not detected.

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First post, by pinesal

Posted on 2022-02-03, 03:37

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Purchased this guy and cannot get the computer to recognize a drive properly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SZDOM6
The computer is the one in my signature .

I have a 256GB Samsung 2.5" SSD I am trying to pair it with. I partitioned the drive into two 128GB partitions.

I can get the bios to autodetect the drive but it detects 136GB but it takes much longer to post than usual when the drive is connected and it doesn't detect the connected CD ROM while the ssd is connected. I have a few suspicions as who what is wrong. Here's what I think

1. I am dumb.
2. There is no master/slave jumper on the adapter and since I am sharing an IDE cable with the CD rom, it's confusing the bios.
3. Maybe the bios is getting freaked out by the large size of the SSD? (Though I did try a 75GB spin up sata drive too and same thing).
4. Maybe drive needs to be manually configured in some way? I noticed I could change a number of perimeters, such as LBA/Normal/Large plus cylinders etc.
5. I am dumb.

Anyone have any idea what I could try?
I want to try to separate the CD Rom and the SDD. The motherboard does have a primary and secondary IDE but I don't have an extra cable at the moment. But I did disconnect the CD rom from the IDE cable but POST still took a long time and it just didn't seem right.

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Reply 1 of 4, by Repo Man11

Posted on 2022-02-03, 04:41

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Did you try the 75 gig SATA without the CDROM? SHaring the same cable with the hard drive and the CDROM has always been inadvisable, but especially so when mixing up old and new hardware like that. It's possible that even the 75 gig drive is larger than what the BIOS supports, though I'd think that the last BIOS from 2001 would at least support a drive that large, but I don't know if that's the BIOS you are using.

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Reply 2 of 4, by pinesal

Posted on 2022-02-03, 04:49

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Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-02-03, 04:41:

Did you try the 75 gig SATA without the CDROM? SHaring the same cable with the hard drive and the CDROM has always been inadvisable, but especially so when mixing up old and new hardware like that. It's possible that even the 75 gig drive is larger than what the BIOS supports, though I'd think that the last BIOS from 2001 would at least support a drive that large, but I don't know if that's the BIOS you are using.

Thanks for the reply. I made some progress. I divided the SSD into 8, 32GB partitions AND disconnected the CD rom. I am installing DOS 6.22 from floppy disk and it seems to be working. I just need to acquire a second IDE cable so that I can connect the CDrom to the secondary IDE port, I guess.

Reply 3 of 4, by Sphere478

Posted on 2022-02-03, 07:05

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I have had a lot of trouble with devices like that, especially trying to use a cd rom.

Yeah, it sucks but just hook the cd up to the ide port on the mobo using a ide cd drive

If you want to use a sata cd rom pick up a promise tx4 sata II 300 card they boot cds from their firmware. (Super handy)

Also,
What next guy said about hdd size limit>>>>

Promise tx4 sata II 300 will solve that though.

Last edited by Sphere478 on 2022-02-03, 08:19. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 4 of 4, by Doornkaat

Posted on 2022-02-03, 07:53

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You're probably running into the 137GB(Gb?) BIOS barrier. If I'm not mistaken there's nothing that'll make a drive larger than 137GB(Gb?) work as intended on an ATA33 controller so you'll need to either use a drive overlay software or get a smaller SSD or use a PCI controller.
I don't know wether there are negative side effects of using drive iverlay software on an SSD.

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