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First post, by tenth1

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First I would like to give some kudos to the creators of this piece of tech. My Master of Magic works great with this program on my Win2K pro. I have to have the 1 of 3 sound effects turned off is the only problem, other than that it's much more stable a game than ever and pretty fast too!!

After getting MOM to work I tried Hammer of the Gods. I haven't had too much luck here. I was able to get the program to skip the intro using the nointro argument but wasn't able to get it to accept the z argument to get it turn turn the sound all the way off.

With intro on, and using the gui, i was able to get it to play about 10 seconds of sound before it stopped and froze.

With the nointro argument in force, it would show up the menu screen with the background picture fuzzy and the mouse working and then freeze right away.

I had vesa enabled and tried many different combos with the GUI.

I pulled the game off www.the-underdogs.org.

I wasn't able to get the setup.exe program to work. That could be a problem. I was able to get the sound set though.

I tried with both updated and non-updated versions.

Any ideas? I was unable to check the compatibility list the last few days.

If you can't see the computer info I entered when registering - I have P2-350mz - geforce2 gts 32mb - 40mb hd 32bit - sblive.

Thanks 😀

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Reply 1 of 8, by Nicht Sehr Gut

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Originally posted by tenth1 After getting MOM to work I tried Hammer of the Gods.

"Master of Magic" is something of a troublemaker. Do a quick search on it and you'll see what I'm talking about. Even those who get it working properly seem to have pausing audio problem, noted here:

showthread.php?threadid=113

Have yet to see anything on "Hammer of the Gods" except my own experience with the original CD, which came up with nothing at all. Will get back with you later.

Reply 2 of 8, by tenth1

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Yes, those are my exact problems with MOM. I guess I'm easily pleased because just being able to play it with only sound effects turned off but still having music on is enough for me.

Re: HOG - by "my own experience with the original CD, which came up with nothing at all." - do you mean there is no problem with using the game with original cd within vdsm? If so I could keep an eye on ebay for the game to surface(only played the demo and would like to try the full game)

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Reply 3 of 8, by Nicht Sehr Gut

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Originally posted by tenth1 Yes, those are my exact problems with MOM.

You might try running it in DosBox as in this thread:
showthread.php?threadid=779

Re: HOG - do you mean there is no problem with using the game with original cd within vdsm?

No, I mean I got nowhere. Not even a startup.

Reply 4 of 8, by tenth1

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I have completed the setup of Hammer of the Gods both of sound and the program. With intro playing I get about 7 seconds of sound before it cuts out. Without intro I still get the frozen start screen.

I would like to try using hamgam.exe instead of hammer.bat but when I use hamgam a window comes up asking my to type the word hammer to play the game and then it doesn't allow me to type in the dos miniscreen.

I think that is where I would type hammer z to try it without sound. Any idea on how I could try this?

I also attached my error log while running the intro.

Reply 5 of 8, by vladr

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The log says suggests that the game quit by itself (probably after encountering some exception).
V.

Reply 6 of 8, by Unregistered

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I dunno about you guys.. yes MOM is an EXCELLENT game.. I personally STILL love it and STILL play it.. with pausing sound and w/o sound.... but there is a newer game out I learned about yesterday its not really new.. more along the civ 2 era... called "Age of Wonders".. its friggin sweet.. VERY VERY VERY simmilar to the master or magic game.. just that its more of a stratgey game and less of a civilization game... you can build everything but cities.. (until its modded someday).. and it HAS FULL windows and SOUND capibility.. you guys should look into it I love it.

😁

Reply 7 of 8, by tenth1

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I agree that Age of Wonders is cool. I've played that before, it's been a while though. I played the demo of AOW2 as well. The AOW series a different flavor than MOM but has been called by some the heir of MOM. I can see that to an extent, but I'd say it was more like a stepchild.

But back to the main gist of the thread and giving some additional data. I've tested Machiavelli the Prince as I read somewhere that it's engine is the same/similar to the engine used for Hammer of the Gods and sure enough. I run into the same exact problems with that as I did with HOG. It freezes at the Menu screen on my W2Kpro system. The only difference being that I could watch the intro to Machiavelli under vdmSound with the command line switch of -VESA, whereas I couldn't see anything from HOG.

So continues the saga. I'm running out of ideas here, though I was trying to read up on how to get the disk cache to a smaller size. I seem to remember debugging Baldur's Gate by emptying out a cache that was too full and changing the settings. Any further ideas appreciated, I'll be back after X-mas.

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah and Peace to all.

Reply 8 of 8, by feg

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I dunno about you guys.. yes MOM is an EXCELLENT game.. I personally STILL love it and STILL play it.. with pausing sound and w/o sound.... but there is a newer game out I learned about yesterday its not really new.. more along the civ 2 era... called "Age of Wonders".. its friggin sweet.. VERY VERY VERY simmilar to the master or magic game.. just that its more of a stratgey game and less of a civilization game... you can build everything but cities.. (until its modded someday).. and it HAS FULL windows and SOUND capibility.. you guys should look into it I love it.

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Managed to get it work by using only adlib.

Regards, Feggy