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Brand NEW nVidia Geforce FX5500 256MB

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First post, by b0by007

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Hello people.
I have a compaq deskpro en PIII at 1 Ghz that has just pci slots.
I was searching for an upgrade to the integrated gpu and found this:
Brand NEW nVidia Geforce FX5500 256MB
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32920228672.html

Did anyone tried this? Are they fake (like Phil from PhilcComputerlab got some videocards from china that were slower chips modded to look like better chips) or these could be for real?

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Reply 1 of 24, by bogdanpaulb

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Those are 128 bit versions of Fx video cards that usually come with slower clocked memory (e.g. 166 mhz instead of 200 mhz, in your case even slower, 133 mhz in gpuz), but beside the penalty for having a slower memory (which is smaller then having a 64 bit bus) they work fine and they are at least somehow honest about it (gpuz preview). Usually the gpu runs at the same speed as a 'normal' FX5500. If you need a pci GPU it can be a choice.

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Reply 2 of 24, by Munx

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Nothing that would indicate this to be fake, however cheap components and low-clocks should be expected.

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Reply 3 of 24, by cyclone3d

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How would GPU-Z tell the difference between a 5200 and a 5500 besides checking what the BIOS ont he card is reporting it as?

They have the same exact specifications except for default clock speed.

The only way to tell for sure is to take the heatsink off and see what the GPU itself says on it.

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Reply 4 of 24, by bogdanpaulb

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The difference from fx5200 to fx5500 is minimal performance wise, assuming same gpu clock, same memory clock and same bus width for both cards (that can be 'seen' in gpuz). So if the chips are real fx5200 or real fx5500 is kind of irrelevant unless you want to be really technical about it.

Reply 5 of 24, by Repo Man11

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I had one of these - it worked, that's about all there is to say about them. I found a few of the sort of AGP cards I really wanted, and then sold this one on Ebay.

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Reply 6 of 24, by b0by007

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I went for it and bought one. It arrived in a simple cardboard box.

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I tested it a lot today in some games: about an hour in Quake 3 and about two hours in Starcraft. No problems.
But the test of time will determine how relaible is going to be.
I am not making any advertising, but is nice to see some good pci cards at decent prices. I am stuck with only PCI on my Compaq Deskpro EN.
I was getting sick of those horders that sell "rare" pci cards with 16mb or 32mb at insane prices (double the price I spent on this one FX 5500 PCI).
I post some pictures with some 3dmark benchmarks and some details from everest
- the new FX 5500 PCI

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UNISYS SG3500 AMD486 DX2 66mhz
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IBM PC 300GL 6561-350, Pentium II MMX 266mhz
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Reply 7 of 24, by Greywolf1

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So what was the conclusion on this card I’ve got a dell dimension 3000 I intend to use this on is it worth getting I understand that it might get throttled due to the bus speed of the pci in the dell

Reply 8 of 24, by b0by007

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Of course, it will be the bootleneck, the dell dimension 3000 has pentium 4, and that should be paired with an AGP video card.
Anyway, I am very pleased of this video card in my Compaq Despro EN SFF Pentium III at 1 Ghz.
I played NFS Hot Pursuit 2 at 800x600 full detailes and works great.
It is also a good for voodoo wrapper. I played NFS2SE with the patch for voodoo and dgVoodoo 1.5 on windows 98 and runs very smooth.
And in Unreal Gold I get 60-70 fps at 1024x768 resolution.
I also played smooth Warcraft 3 at 1024x768 resolution.

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Reply 9 of 24, by Greywolf1

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Yeah unfortunately none of the motherboards I have available have agp slots so I have to make the best with what I have and afford vintage tech wise.
I think I can go ahead and get one.

Reply 10 of 24, by Lynxman

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I thought these only worked on motherboard with an AGP slot (even if it uses the PCI slot). It's a known issue with these. Maybe your chipset is AGP capable but just doesn't have the slot. Mine doesn't work on my Socket 7 PCI board without AGP but works fine in the PCI slot of my two that also have AGP.

Reply 11 of 24, by Greywolf1

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Well there’s not a lot of options available unless you have an unlimited bank account and not paying £200 for a pci card that’s not even garenteed to work.
Have to risk a cheaper card.
And my dell really only has pci slots no empty board spaces to anything else
And my other boards have various pci and PCIe slots but so far I’ve been unsuccessful installing win98 on the more modern vintage boards
I’ll let you know what problems I come across

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Reply 12 of 24, by Lynxman

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Yeah it's cheap enough to make it worth a shot. It's a decent performer. I get 11000 points in 3DMark 99 Max on my Pentium 4 2,6 GHz system with it.

Reply 13 of 24, by Lynxman

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Here's what I get on my system. My card looks exactly like the one linked to in the original post.

Abit IS7
Pentium 4 2,6GHz
1 GB CAS 2,5 DDR PC3200 ram

BTW, you might have more luck installing Windows 98 on newer systems if you only have <512 MB ram installed.

Reply 14 of 24, by Lynxman

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Overclocked to 305/325 (Stock is 250/266).

Reply 15 of 24, by Greywolf1

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Everything goes haywire when I’m installing drivers either 98 breaks or xp it keeps screwing up my installation beyond basic installation hoping proper gpu instead of onboard gpu

Reply 16 of 24, by Lynxman

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Some 2001 SE results. 20% increase from the overclock.

Reply 17 of 24, by momaka

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Just a heads up for all those of you who buy these new GeForce FX5200 and FX5500 cards: beware of poor quality electrolytic capacitors that may be used.

In particular, if any of the electrolytic capacitors have "FZ" written on their top, then they are from a shitty Chinese brand, called Sacon (formerly also known as Evercon and GSC on older hardware.) These are GUARANTEED TO FAIL. It may take a year, it may take 5, but be certain they will fail/POP on you. Even worse, when they do, they almost always degrade so quickly that they become nearly open-circuit. Depending on how the voltage regulation modules on the card are designed you may or may not see any issues right away. On cards that aren't very tolerant of bad parts, these going bad can FRY the GPU and/or RAM. I have a number of dead eVGA GeForce 7600 GT cards from back in the day from this failure. Also have many XFX GeForce 8600 GT cards, but these were tolerant and nothing fried on them when the FZ caps went bad - the card just became unstable.

So yeah, if you buy one, know that it will need to get recapped at some point. It doesn't matter if you get the PCI or AGP version. In fact, this problem extends to all other NEW retro GeForce cards too, like even the 7800/7900 GS AGP.

Reply 18 of 24, by Greywolf1

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Good to know

Reply 19 of 24, by Lynxman

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Thanks for that info. Mine has "FP" caps. They are through hole caps.