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First post, by nezic

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I'm gearing up to order parts for a new system, and was curious if the newer nForce4 motherboard chipsets have the same issues as earlier nForce versions with regards to EMS. I suspect they do, but I may as well ask here to verify.. Besides, no one ever gets tired of EMS questions, right??

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Reply 1 of 3, by DosFreak

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I wouldn't base your buying decision on that since it'll probably take some time to build up replies from the # of people that have Nforce4 boards and working EMS. Might be better off asking at Nforcers. Why care about Host EMS anyway? With a computer that fast any program that uses EMS will work fine under DosBox/Qemu/VPC/Vmware/Bochs/etc...

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Reply 2 of 3, by nezic

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Yeah, I was just talking about that (using dosbox) with my roommate, and I agree. Mainly I was just curious, especially since it seems that nforce4 chipsets are really the only way to go at the moment (I've read reference to new ATI and Sis(?) chipsets coming out sometime, but I don't know when).

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Reply 3 of 3, by dvwjr

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nezic wrote:

I'm gearing up to order parts for a new system, and was curious if the newer nForce4 motherboard chipsets have the same issues as earlier nForce versions with regards to EMS.

As was stated with DOSbox you can gain access to EMS specification memory for any applications/games you might want to run now...

I wouldn't worry about your new motherboard chipset and the ability to use EMS memory under the NTVDM Dos emulation environment of WinNT/2K/XP. The real info is that as long as the PC workstation motherboard does not use ISA (or Microchannel) adapters which use MMIO restricted to the under 1MB address space neither the motherboard chipset or PCI v2.1/AGP/PCI-X/PCI-e adapters have any impact on the potential ability for the NTVDM to provide full access to LIM 4.0 specification Expanded Memory for older DOS applications.

I realize that much of the misinformatation over the past 3 years about the "EMS problem" is based on the fact that in many cases it just won't work, however it was a marketing decision made by Microsoft about the functionality exposed by the NTVDM code, not a technical one... This is one of the technical/marketing omissions which will be corrected by the code of the ".Penultimate" project.

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