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First post, by kokornov

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Is it possible to replace 4 SGRAM chips on 3dfx velocity 100 to ones with double capacity to get a 16mb SGRAM Voodoo 3?

Reply 1 of 19, by Old Thrashbarg

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Probably not. The 16MB SGRAM versions had 8 chips and a different PCB.

Reply 2 of 19, by NitroX infinity

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It will probably cost you more to replace the ram chips then to buy a 16MiB Voodoo3.

Reply 3 of 19, by kokornov

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V3 2000 PCI has 4 chips, that are identical to those i've just soldered to my Velocity (km4132g112q-6). The card isn't working now (beeps on POST). It possibly died during soldering, or just need another BIOS. Will see.

Reply 4 of 19, by Mr.Hunt

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kokornov wrote on 2013-10-27, 17:20:

V3 2000 PCI has 4 chips, that are identical to those i've just soldered to my Velocity (km4132g112q-6). The card isn't working now (beeps on POST). It possibly died during soldering, or just need another BIOS. Will see.

Hi! I want to know, did you fix this card? If yes, how?

Reply 5 of 19, by Postman5

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Velocity 100 with 16MB (4хKM4132G112) works fine with BIOS V3-1k 2.15.05-SG; V3-2k 2.15.03-SG.
How to modify the bios Velocity100 2.15.06-SG, so that memory 16MB is detected at startup?
It seems to me that the memory size is simply not detected, but indicated. But how can this be changed in the BIOS file?

Reply 7 of 19, by Thermalwrong

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So what changed, you're using the velocity 200 x.06 BIOS instead of the 100 x.06 bios?
BTW it would be nice if you could document some of what you changed, did you only need to swap the ram and swap over R22 > R23 & add R24 or did you have to change strap resistors?

Congrats on getting this working, I dunno if I've ever heard of a velocity 200 but it's good that you've now got one 😀

Reply 9 of 19, by Mr.Hunt

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I have already solder 16mb to my card. But Bios I modify from 2000. All work okay.

Reply 10 of 19, by Postman5

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Hello everyone!
New BIOS for Voodoo3 Velocity200
Improved compatibility with Voodoo3 V1.03.00 DirectX7 and V1.03.05 Windows98 drivers

Reply 11 of 19, by Mr.Hunt

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Could you please tell me what you modify in BIOS ?

Reply 13 of 19, by renejr902

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Postman5 wrote on 2024-08-05, 22:57:

Velocity 100 with 16MB (4хKM4132G112) works fine with BIOS V3-1k 2.15.05-SG; V3-2k 2.15.03-SG.
How to modify the bios Velocity100 2.15.06-SG, so that memory 16MB is detected at startup?
It seems to me that the memory size is simply not detected, but indicated. But how can this be changed in the BIOS file?

Would it be possible to change only 2 ram chip with
KM4132G112 to get it working with 12 megs instead of 16 megs ? i would like to try that. It would be the first one with 12 megs ram. Thanks for answer
( i suppose your velocity 200 12mb ram bios wont work with it )

(i just made this topic before i found this one:
Re: Cool 3dfx voodoo 3 velocity 100 8 megs mod ;) and questions too thanks, check the pictures)

Reply 14 of 19, by douglar

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renejr902 wrote on 2025-09-09, 04:54:
Would it be possible to change only 2 ram chip with KM4132G112 to get it working with 12 megs instead of 16 megs ? i would like […]
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Would it be possible to change only 2 ram chip with
KM4132G112 to get it working with 12 megs instead of 16 megs ? i would like to try that. It would be the first one with 12 megs ram. Thanks for answer
( i suppose your velocity 200 12mb ram bios wont work with it )

(i just made this topic before i found this one:
Re: Cool 3dfx voodoo 3 velocity 100 8 megs mod ;) and questions too thanks, check the pictures)

I don't think 12MB is an option. Your choices are 8MB or 16MB.

Reply 15 of 19, by Postman5

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renejr902 wrote on 2025-09-09, 04:54:
Would it be possible to change only 2 ram chip with KM4132G112 to get it working with 12 megs instead of 16 megs ? i would like […]
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Postman5 wrote on 2024-08-05, 22:57:

Velocity 100 with 16MB (4хKM4132G112) works fine with BIOS V3-1k 2.15.05-SG; V3-2k 2.15.03-SG.
How to modify the bios Velocity100 2.15.06-SG, so that memory 16MB is detected at startup?
It seems to me that the memory size is simply not detected, but indicated. But how can this be changed in the BIOS file?

Would it be possible to change only 2 ram chip with
KM4132G112 to get it working with 12 megs instead of 16 megs ? i would like to try that. It would be the first one with 12 megs ram. Thanks for answer
( i suppose your velocity 200 12mb ram bios wont work with it )

(i just made this topic before i found this one:
Re: Cool 3dfx voodoo 3 velocity 100 8 megs mod ;) and questions too thanks, check the pictures)

The memory capacity of Voodoo3 can be either 8 or 16.
This is strictly determined by the architecture of Voodoo3.
Voodoo3 cannot work with 12MB of memory.

Reply 16 of 19, by renejr902

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Postman5 wrote on 2025-09-09, 22:31:
The memory capacity of Voodoo3 can be either 8 or 16. This is strictly determined by the architecture of Voodoo3. Voodoo3 cannot […]
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renejr902 wrote on 2025-09-09, 04:54:
Would it be possible to change only 2 ram chip with KM4132G112 to get it working with 12 megs instead of 16 megs ? i would like […]
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Postman5 wrote on 2024-08-05, 22:57:

Velocity 100 with 16MB (4хKM4132G112) works fine with BIOS V3-1k 2.15.05-SG; V3-2k 2.15.03-SG.
How to modify the bios Velocity100 2.15.06-SG, so that memory 16MB is detected at startup?
It seems to me that the memory size is simply not detected, but indicated. But how can this be changed in the BIOS file?

Would it be possible to change only 2 ram chip with
KM4132G112 to get it working with 12 megs instead of 16 megs ? i would like to try that. It would be the first one with 12 megs ram. Thanks for answer
( i suppose your velocity 200 12mb ram bios wont work with it )

(i just made this topic before i found this one:
Re: Cool 3dfx voodoo 3 velocity 100 8 megs mod ;) and questions too thanks, check the pictures)

The memory capacity of Voodoo3 can be either 8 or 16.
This is strictly determined by the architecture of Voodoo3.
Voodoo3 cannot work with 12MB of memory.

ok thanks for your answer

Could it works with these:

KM4132G271AQ-10 ? ( they are less expensive ) i didnt check the datasheet, maybe they are slower

i just checked, they are 100mhz, they are too slow

Reply 17 of 19, by renejr902

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Postman5 wrote on 2025-09-09, 22:31:
The memory capacity of Voodoo3 can be either 8 or 16. This is strictly determined by the architecture of Voodoo3. Voodoo3 cannot […]
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renejr902 wrote on 2025-09-09, 04:54:
Would it be possible to change only 2 ram chip with KM4132G112 to get it working with 12 megs instead of 16 megs ? i would like […]
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Postman5 wrote on 2024-08-05, 22:57:

Velocity 100 with 16MB (4хKM4132G112) works fine with BIOS V3-1k 2.15.05-SG; V3-2k 2.15.03-SG.
How to modify the bios Velocity100 2.15.06-SG, so that memory 16MB is detected at startup?
It seems to me that the memory size is simply not detected, but indicated. But how can this be changed in the BIOS file?

Would it be possible to change only 2 ram chip with
KM4132G112 to get it working with 12 megs instead of 16 megs ? i would like to try that. It would be the first one with 12 megs ram. Thanks for answer
( i suppose your velocity 200 12mb ram bios wont work with it )

(i just made this topic before i found this one:
Re: Cool 3dfx voodoo 3 velocity 100 8 megs mod ;) and questions too thanks, check the pictures)

The memory capacity of Voodoo3 can be either 8 or 16.
This is strictly determined by the architecture of Voodoo3.
Voodoo3 cannot work with 12MB of memory.

are these one 100% ok ? i checked the datasheet. thabks for answer

KM4132G512Q-7
https://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/do … 2G271AQ-10.html

they work at 143mhz, they sgram, are they still faster or slower ?

My father and me are looking to try it.

i just saw on your picture, yours are KM4132G1120-6

i cant find them. ( they are 166mhz chip. you should be able to run them at 166mhz. but the overclock.exe patch dont permit to overclock ram )

some matrox has KM4132G1120-5 up to 200mhz

Please let me know which are 100% compatible. thanks. if i could use 200mhz chip, could be cool at 200mhz

Reply 18 of 19, by Postman5

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The operating speed is set by the GPU. You can install memory chips -7, -6, -5.5, -5 and they will all work at 143 MHz. There is no need to overclock the Voodoo3 above 143 MHz - Glide applications do not require this, and competing in performance with GeForce cards with a memory capacity of 128 MB - 1024 MB in DirectX applications seems strange to me.

Reply 19 of 19, by renejr902

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Postman5 wrote on 2025-09-12, 10:58:

The operating speed is set by the GPU. You can install memory chips -7, -6, -5.5, -5 and they will all work at 143 MHz. There is no need to overclock the Voodoo3 above 143 MHz - Glide applications do not require this, and competing in performance with GeForce cards with a memory capacity of 128 MB - 1024 MB in DirectX applications seems strange to me.

ok i got it the voodoo 3 speed in mhz is the same for both the memory and core, so when i overclock the card its overclock both. But I'm still curious, why glide application dont need this. example, if i play at 1024x768 in glide mode with nfs porsche unleashed, it should have difference in fps between 143mhz and 166mhz ? right ? This game is heavy for a voodoo 3. i didnt benchmark the difference, i know i can verify it with a hacked glide2x.dll with fraps. But i understand porsche unleashed is not a typical game for a voodoo 3. I know screamer 2, tomb raider,croc... should not need it at 166mhz.