Nunoalex wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:15:its fking insane ... you list a C64 for 100 euros and it stays there for 10 years, you list it for 5 euros and it is gone in 10 seconds
Clearly there is a struggle to find a fair price?
Nunoalex wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:20:tehsiggi wrote on 2025-12-10, 13:59:What a beauty. Apparently broken, but I haven't got time to test her yet.
Another one on my list.What is it ?
is it a 9600XT or Pro ?
As pointed out here:
marxveix wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:44:Nunoalex wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:20:What is it ?
is it a 9600XT or Pro ?
More like 9700Pro, 9600XT and 9600Pro does not have extra power need and there is PN 109-94200-11
It's a 9700Pro from Gigabyte. Probably bad memory, but the gold + red design is just top.
Btw. many of the 9600Pro/XT PCBs actually had external power in mind, but never needed it (not populated). Makes you wonder.
tehsiggi wrote on 2025-12-10, 16:00:As pointed out here: […]
Nunoalex wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:20:tehsiggi wrote on 2025-12-10, 13:59:What a beauty. Apparently broken, but I haven't got time to test her yet.
Another one on my list.What is it ?
is it a 9600XT or Pro ?
As pointed out here:
marxveix wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:44:Nunoalex wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:20:What is it ?
is it a 9600XT or Pro ?
More like 9700Pro, 9600XT and 9600Pro does not have extra power need and there is PN 109-94200-11
It's a 9700Pro from Gigabyte. Probably bad memory, but the gold + red design is just top.
Btw. many of the 9600Pro/XT PCBs actually had external power in mind, but never needed it (not populated). Makes you wonder.
aha ! You are correct I have 2 or 3 9600XT and they really dont have the power connector
Unfortunately I dont own a 9700 .. and in my experience many 9600 go bad ... maybe the 9700s too
Mostly Radeon 9700/9800 cards go bad easier,something with cooling system,
Radeon 9600Pro/XT are better at that, bit newer and has fixed cooling solution.
Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
30+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi Rage3 cards : Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files
marxveix wrote on 2025-12-10, 18:04:Mostly Radeon 9700/9800 cards go bad easier,something with cooling system,
Radeon 9600Pro/XT are better at that, bit newer and has fixed cooling solution.
Most deaths appear to be memory.. If you have 9600 with BGA mem as well, it can face the same issues.
I eagle-eyed this one in a lot recently and the seller agreed to sell it separately. I have had an M919 for around 8 years that has needed a cache module, and I found another M919 variant within the last couple years that is also missing (real) cache. I know that new ones can be built, but that can be a bit of a process and saving an original one from getting scrapped seemed like a good thing to do. Honestly, the rest of the lot ended up selling for way less than I expected, so I probably could have just bid on it, but I have no idea how high the other peoples' max bids were.
I'm happy to have gotten this for a low-ish price (~$20 shipped). I just hope it works. After getting a close look at the picture it appears that there is some discoloration on the contacts... I'm hoping it's just the lighting and not a sign of severe battery rot.
I saw a lot of K6-2 processors for scrap recently, and upon inspection I saw a K6-2+ in the picture. I didn't have one of these yet so I figured it was worth watching. I kept trying to make out details of the other processors and it kinda sorta looked like one might be a K6-III too, but it was just as likely to have been a jpeg artifact. I managed to win the listing for a good price and the lot was delivered today...
... in a bubble mailer... But hey, the seller put a "Handle with Care" sticker on the mailer, so it was probably all good, right?😓
Thankfully, they packed them pretty decently, with a 4 chips in a row, with layer of bubble wrap between the next 4 chips. At first glance I'm not seeing any broken pins though tons of them are severely bent, but I was expecting that anyway... It will take hours to get them all straightened...
So, I dug through the lot, spent a good hour cleaning all the hardened thermal paste off of them and boy, what a score! The lot contained:
1x K6 PR2-166ALR
1x K6-2 300AFR (with an interesting little scan code printed on it with "300Mhz" next to it... never seen one like this before)
3x K6-2 500AFX
2x K6-2 450AFX
3x K6-2 400AFQ
3x K6-2 380AFR
and the best ones of the lot...
K6-2+ 550ACZ
K6-III+ 500ANZ
🤩
Still kind of in shock over this find. It looks like all the pins are intact on both of them too. The K6-2+ 550ACZ is 2.0v part, and appears to be the second best K6-2+ you can find, just below the 570ACZ.
The 500ANZ is a 1.8v part... which according to CPU-World makes it the only 500Mhz+ K6-III+ rated for less than 2v. Probably not much of a stretch to say that this is one of the best K6-III+ models I could have found... possibly even better than the 550ACR (2.0v).
I have a bunch of SS7 boards. If you had to couple one of these chips with a board for the best SS7 system possible, with the most flexibility (underclocking, overclocking, performance, compatibility, stability, etc.) what would you choose?
I finally found the unobtainium board I've been looking for!
I mean, ok, it's not quite the one... but it's close enough.
DFI NF2 Infinity.
I really want the DFI NF2 Ultra B Lanparty board, but I've only seen it fleetingly 2 or 3 times in the past few years.
Caps are cooked on this one but I have a set of polymers on the way to bring it back.
Nunoalex wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:28:Hi Neil ! Welcome !
Well 386/486/Pentium motherboards with battery damage is what we eat here for breakfast in this hobby !
Thanks. Been here quite a while - I had to create a new account though as my original got locked for some reason and I couldnt get hol dof the admins... 😀
Got very obscure Siemens Nixdorf Scenic Pro Net S, almost no info about it. The case is something like SFF, 29x35x8.5 cm and it works with external adapter at 19V.
It should be P120MHz, but came with P166MMX running at 233MHz, voltage regulator, 512MB COAST module and 32MB of RAM, HDD is missing.
CL-GD5446 video card, Vibra 16C audio and after some connectors cleaning came to life.
DundyTheCroc wrote on 2025-12-13, 17:58:Got very obscure Siemens Nixdorf Scenic Pro Net S, almost no info about it. The case is something like SFF, 29x35x8.5 cm and it […]
Got very obscure Siemens Nixdorf Scenic Pro Net S, almost no info about it. The case is something like SFF, 29x35x8.5 cm and it works with external adapter at 19V.
It should be P120MHz, but came with P166MMX running at 233MHz, voltage regulator, 512MB COAST module and 32MB of RAM, HDD is missing.
CL-GD5446 video card, Vibra 16C audio and after some connectors cleaning came to life.
Somewhere, I haven't seen it in a while, I have an early version of that board, socket 5 only. Mine only likes certain S-specs. I bought the bare board new from stock clearance wayyyy back, when Pentiums were still a solid office box. So I was hoping at the time to get it useful, but didn't really manage it. Though it would be fun to case up and play on now, with less demanded from it.
Yeah hunting info for that board was very hard back around the millennium, so with webrot since I imagine all members of the line must be hard to find anything for. Possibly around the time they were bought by NEC, or was that earlier? Or maybe when SN operations were actually dissolved after being independent unit for a while in NEC shakeup. Mentioning that because I think I found some NEC sites with some bare minimum info back then.
Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.
Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-12-13, 05:02:At first glance I'm not seeing any broken pins though tons of them are severely bent, but I was expecting that anyway... It will take hours to get them all straightened...
Awesome score, try my "GUM flosspick" pin straightening trick. Use it like a plow kinda, run down between rows one at a time, then turn 90 degrees and do it across, works amazingly well.
Edit: Aha, there I am, original GUM post... Re: What modern activity did you get up to today?
Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.
Quick test of my new baby... Says it is a 5.5" but tube size looks like 6" might have been when momentum from consumer complaints had them change to visible size measurement. Apex-7024 ... and it's COLOR ... you see 10 or 20 B/W in this size for every color. Even when it is a ~5" color it's usually in a wider format case with radio dial and stuff, and probably allowing room for 6x D cell batteries across the back. This one is external 12V only. Whereas the B/Ws are approximately cubic, this is more like cube and a half, extra depth to get all the guns and coils and stuff in on a longer tube.
Seems promising, bit of pincushion, glitchy as heck, not sure if it needs contact cleaner or some of the switches and sockets tagged back down, or a bit of both, would like the focus a little sharper. Just plugged it into one of those JAXX handhelds for quick test. Their signal ain't the cleanest though so better find a good stable source to tweak it on.
So yah, this will be trying some CGA artifact stuffs in future.
In other news, pondering a Slot A system... it's a hole I wasn't seeking to fill really, but there's one available. However, it's not currently fully functional, has a K7M board which from a search on here seems to have Sudden Asus Death Syndrome problems. My luck with Asus is just about the lowest of all board manufacturers. Slot A 600mhz, K7M, Radeon 9200, in beige case with drives, needs sorting out, what would you say is a fair price? I am tending to lowball too hard and piss ppl off.
Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.
BitWrangler wrote on Yesterday, 00:20:Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-12-13, 05:02:At first glance I'm not seeing any broken pins though tons of them are severely bent, but I was expecting that anyway... It will take hours to get them all straightened...
Awesome score, try my "GUM flosspick" pin straightening trick. Use it like a plow kinda, run down between rows one at a time, then turn 90 degrees and do it across, works amazingly well.
Edit: Aha, there I am, original GUM post... Re: What modern activity did you get up to today?
Great idea! I'll have to check and see if we have any of those stashed somewhere. That's probably much quicker for doing whole rows and less scary than using a metal tool.
It's a bit time consuming, but I use one of these to straight individual pins:
https://www.amazon.com/Pentel-GraphGear-Autom … 0006HXQXA/?th=1
For Socket 370/A and earlier, the size of the pencil lead tube is just about perfect to fit over the pins with just enough wiggle room to allow for less than perfectly straight pins.
Just unscrew the metal end and use the tube to slide over the end of a pin, then lift until it is pointing straight up. Works amazingly well for really bent pins. Sometimes I need to use a different tool to separate pins if they are touching in a way that block the tube, but most of the time this will do the job and it does it in a way that gives you lots of control. This seems to help reduce the chance of breakage.
I'm sure the gold plated playdoh pins that they use on CPU upgrade chips (Evergreen, Kingston, PNY etc.) would still snap off most of the time with this method, but I think it's still a bit safer than most.
BitWrangler wrote on Yesterday, 00:51:Quick test of my new baby... Says it is a 5.5" but tube size looks like 6" might have been when momentum from consumer complaint […]
Quick test of my new baby... Says it is a 5.5" but tube size looks like 6" might have been when momentum from consumer complaints had them change to visible size measurement. Apex-7024 ... and it's COLOR ... you see 10 or 20 B/W in this size for every color. Even when it is a ~5" color it's usually in a wider format case with radio dial and stuff, and probably allowing room for 6x D cell batteries across the back. This one is external 12V only. Whereas the B/Ws are approximately cubic, this is more like cube and a half, extra depth to get all the guns and coils and stuff in on a longer tube.
Seems promising, bit of pincushion, glitchy as heck, not sure if it needs contact cleaner or some of the switches and sockets tagged back down, or a bit of both, would like the focus a little sharper. Just plugged it into one of those JAXX handhelds for quick test. Their signal ain't the cleanest though so better find a good stable source to tweak it on.
So yah, this will be trying some CGA artifact stuffs in future.
In other news, pondering a Slot A system... it's a hole I wasn't seeking to fill really, but there's one available. However, it's not currently fully functional, has a K7M board which from a search on here seems to have Sudden Asus Death Syndrome problems. My luck with Asus is just about the lowest of all board manufacturers. Slot A 600mhz, K7M, Radeon 9200, in beige case with drives, needs sorting out, what would you say is a fair price? I am tending to lowball too hard and piss ppl off.
Wow, that is so cool! I don't think I've ever seen a portable color CRT that small. I'd definitely be curious to see what it looks like hooked up to a stupidly expensive (for the time) composite source, like an IBM PC with a CGA card. Definitely need to run 8088MPH on it. 😁
... also, I want at least one picture of it sitting on top of a desktop PC as if it belongs there.
Lostdotfish wrote on 2025-12-13, 15:29:I finally found the unobtainium board I've been looking for! […]
I finally found the unobtainium board I've been looking for!
I mean, ok, it's not quite the one... but it's close enough.
DFI NF2 Infinity.
I really want the DFI NF2 Ultra B Lanparty board, but I've only seen it fleetingly 2 or 3 times in the past few years.
Caps are cooked on this one but I have a set of polymers on the way to bring it back.
I gave up looking for that board a long time ago and settled on an Abit NF7. Very nice job tracking one down. Enjoy.
Lostdotfish wrote on 2025-12-13, 15:29:I finally found the unobtainium board I've been looking for! […]
I finally found the unobtainium board I've been looking for!
I mean, ok, it's not quite the one... but it's close enough.
DFI NF2 Infinity.
I really want the DFI NF2 Ultra B Lanparty board, but I've only seen it fleetingly 2 or 3 times in the past few years.
Caps are cooked on this one but I have a set of polymers on the way to bring it back.
Why is so special???
-Socket A boards with four SATA ports are quite rare.
-4pin 12V CPU header is nice to have
-MCP-T southbridge, SoundStorm, offloads digital encoding from the CPU. Limited usefulness however.
-It's RED!
I'm still on the lookout for an 8RDA6+...
i386 16 ⇒ i486 DX4 100 ⇒ Pentium MMX 200 ⇒ Athlon Pluto 700 ⇒ AthlonXP 1700+ ⇒ Opteron 165 ⇒ Dual Opteron 856
AlessandroB wrote on Yesterday, 10:11:Lostdotfish wrote on 2025-12-13, 15:29:I finally found the unobtainium board I've been looking for! […]
I finally found the unobtainium board I've been looking for!
I mean, ok, it's not quite the one... but it's close enough.
DFI NF2 Infinity.
I really want the DFI NF2 Ultra B Lanparty board, but I've only seen it fleetingly 2 or 3 times in the past few years.
Caps are cooked on this one but I have a set of polymers on the way to bring it back.
Why is so special???
Quite possibly the best overclocking motherboard for Socket A ever.
It has very high RAM voltages available and lots of advanced OC settings, there's really nothing else close to it.
Been a while since I last dropped stuff in this thread.
Let's see:
- pair of 1GHz/133FSB Slot 1 P3s (Compaq OEM)
- pair of Diamond branded Voodoo 2 12MB
- 3d Prophet 4500 Kyro II 64MB
- 3dfx Voodoo 3 2000 PCI
- MSI BX Master
- MSI MS-6163Pro
- MSI MS-6199VA
- A-Trend ATG-2455 (V2 12MB)
- Dell Optiplex GX1 (yes, I got another one, which seems to have Coppermine support out of the box 🤣)
- FIC VB-601-V
- ATI Radeon X800SE PCI-E
- Sapphire Radeon X800GTO AGP (w/ Rialto bridge)
- Pentium 2 400MHz build with Inwin A500 (a case I thought it'd be unobtanium for me)
- Zenith Z-Station 5500E
- Tekram P5M3-A+ (MVP3+686A - figured this might be a good match for a K6-III I have, but I'll probably let @Sphere478 have an opinion about it honestly)
- Mitac/Trigon 6110ZU - interesting board, bought it mainly for a retro HP build I plan, thanks @Socket3 for confirming this board came from a HP Brio!
And lots of goodies to come!
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