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Reply 100 of 103, by marxveix

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Yes i made clean Windows install and regular driver install and ATi2Drab driver works with CIF.
Dont get your hopes up with Rage XL PCI, but as ATi2drab is Mobility driver, then there maybe.
I checked it with Rage Pro and XL AGP and there CIF works. I send soon some driver, thank you.
Take this new ATi2Drab driver as Test-DriveR for ATi3DCIF / also D3D + OpenGL menu is added.
Menu is added automatically, does settings work or work for all settings, i dont know at now.

Unofficial 5.38.x 2611 and 5.40.x 2611 drivers + new ATi2Drab drivers are working with 3DCIF
Gona should update table soon, RageXL AGP / Rage2+/C did got newer CIF compatible drivers.
New to be released ATi2Drab has 3DCIF and maybe it can be add 3DCIF to the Rage 3 Mobility.
https://gona.mactar.hu/ATI3DCIF/

Workaround fixes, not 100 real fixes at soon to be released first ATi2Drab drivers with 3DCIF. 😀
Use some of the easy fixes if you have similar or same issues that i had, now its already better.

1 error
Abybody knows how to hide ingame mouse cursor with Win9x or make it invisible at gaming?
old ati2drab.drv file issue, but i cant update it to newer if i want to stay with 3dcif compatible.

Solution, use non windows default cursors, download cursor file (.cur) and it does not show up where its not needed.

Downloaded some cursors from here and used Win9x
https://www.rw-designer.com/cursor-detail/143448

First tought about to use invisble cursor, not needed it
https://www.rw-designer.com/cursor-detail/143446

Downloaded .cur file even not needed Win9x ones OK
Look added picture what to change in the mouse tabs

2 error at the moment, i check other driver base with 4.11.1027 drv
https://www.hresult.info/FACILITY_DIRECT_DRAW/0x88760249
3DMark and other programs may to show some DD erros on them.
Same time Turok D3D game worked well,need to test more games.

Solution: DirectDraw errors are with specific Rage3 cards, not all. 😀
Old Rage Pro worked well.Soon it will be available,but not at now
Its not gona be the best driver, but new menu and new base files.
Gives possibilites to use newer D3D file and newer DX7/DX8 base

3 error that this driver has, but there are some workarounds of it
Rage XL/RageLTPro OpenGL does not work,but Rage Pro or Turbo
runs well on ATi OpenGL, try this driver out@Mobility, thank you!
I have 0 Mobility card and if in luck,the CIF also works,dont know.

Solution : ATi OpenGL starting with specific Rage 3 cards, not all.
Solution2:Use glide2cif / latest glide2cif +3dfx opengl32-speedy.
Almost or basicly same speed as original ATi OGL without multex.
Also multitexture cant be used out of macxw4 / ati2ddad drivers.
+ you get 8bit paletted textures at OpenGL, like you have in D3D.

Apply this to your game.bat file (glide and 3dfx opengl)
set FX_GLIDE_SWAPINTERVAL=0
GLQuake

Prove me rong about multitexture and i am more happy, right. 😀

3DCIF games already tested, some games need 15bit colors back
One of that game is TombRaider ATi,others dont care of its 16bit
I am talking about 565(16bit) and 555(15bit),ATi default is 15bit
Desktop colors show both way High Color 16bit,under its 16 or 15

Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
30+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi Rage3 cards : Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 101 of 103, by marxveix

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Already back then i had this, one thing that changed is ati3dcif.dll and that brings all cif games to the table, not just 1 game (Assault Rigs).

Compaq (HP) original drivers are broken?

From tested cif games, only Croc 1.0 quits before start (maybe pc issue). Speed limiter is 1 ati2drab.drv 4.11.1xxx early file and with newer ones you miss cif and get greater speed. I have tested so far 4.11.1014, 4.11.1019, 4.11.1021,4.11.1024, 4.11.1026,4.11.1027. They work with bundles and out of that bubble you do not get any acceleration at all. All those driver files work with ati2drab versions of atid16ab.dll and atid32ab.dll, i have tested 5031, 5032, 5034 and 5036 (5036 atid16ab.dll only, because 5036 atid32ab.dll is broken file, when unzipped). Driver uses 5036 atid16ab.dll and 5034 atid32ab.dll. I dont like to use AI, but it talks something about ati rage mobility driver 4.11.1031 that i have not found and if it exist, good to use it, thank you!

Driver that will be release will be probably slower than 5.40, but d3d part is newer, i can easly go up to 4.12.1021 d3d file, it much newer than 4.11.4033 one that is used for the 5.38 and 540 releases. I share it beacuse someone can make it better than me and with that we can grow better out of macxw4 and ati2ddad drivers. If i change (edit) 4 files, then i can use them in ati2drae driver as well. Macxw4 and ati2ddad belongs to one driver family and ati2drab and ati2drae to another. ATi2Drab/ae comes to the DX7 level at D3D with CIF compatible driver.

It may happen that Rage2+/Rage2c can be taken to the newer driver releases as well, but with its own older d3d file. Newer drivers where made for Rage2, but no one so far has the ATi 5.39 OEM Win9x driver for Rage cards. Maybe someone reads this and still has it, then share them if you have it, Thank you!

I had some other things todo, but i try to release it later this week and someone still can recommend faster driver base for it, it can be ati2drab or ati2drae, does not matter. Right now i have them on 4.11.2601 and 4.12.2637 drivers. Final reality 3D score is slow at xl agp, its up at 3.17 and if i change 1 ati2drab/ae file it goes up to Final Reality score, 4.14@3D. So maybe i release it as Combo driver, comes with CIF and can be updated to newer 2637 or 2647. I will release it as it is and i will improve it better at later, if there is anything left to increase, i will do it step by step. I hope there is more to come and its truly the first ati2drab/ati2drae 3dcif driver out there, as my 5.40 driver was first driver for Rage XL AGP/Rage2+/Rage2C.

I have not checked DVD part, it all takes time, like i told, i can do it by smaller steps. I have released so many versions already and many are similar ones. Those driver releases are some of the steps for me as well, so to rembember the changes, without it, they may go lost in time, like some other drivers before.

Focus is still on at CIF support, even back then, any tweaked driver did not mention or had no CIF support, for ATi it would not have hard to keep backward compability for the CIF and they did cut it after ati2drab 4.11.1027, macxw4 4.11.2598, ati2ddad 4.11.2611. ATi 5.39 driver maybe would change that for macxw4 and we still miss many drivers, that where available back then, wayback machine does not have it all, just some of it.

Even ATi was very shy about his ATi3DCIF support. Rarely you see CIF mentioned,but sometimes its there.
Added graphics pages from Compaq Deskpro EN manual and waypack machine information from ATi site.
There they mention CIF support with other Rage2 and Rage3 information available back then 1997/1998.

The graphics subsystem includes the following software support:
♦ Accelerated drive support for Windows 3.x, Win95, and WinNT
♦ MS DirectDraw support for Win95
♦ MS ActiveMovie support for Win95
♦ MPEG-1 software playback for DOS, Windows 3.x, and Win95
♦ MPEG-2 software playback Win95
♦ MS Direct3D support for Win95
♦ QuickDraw 3D RAVE support for Win95 and WinNT
♦ OpenGL support for Win95 and WinNT
♦ Heidi support for WinNT
♦ ATI 3D CIF support for Win95

Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
30+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi Rage3 cards : Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 102 of 103, by Mouldotron

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Hey there Marxveix 😀

So I'm hoping to query your vast wisdom for all things Rage 😀

I've just acquired a Rage Fury Maxx card (the one with the two Rage 128 Pro chips). I've heard they can be very interesting to get working properly! I've got a fresh machine here (An Athlon 1800mhz) with a fresh install of Windows 98-SE. The card is in there and works but obviously just runs as a VGA card at the moment, no vendor specific drivers are installed.

Which driver package would you suggest I download and install for this card?

Thank you so much for your advice 😀

Reply 103 of 103, by marxveix

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Mouldotron wrote on Yesterday, 15:57:
Hey there Marxveix :) […]
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Hey there Marxveix 😀

So I'm hoping to query your vast wisdom for all things Rage 😀

I've just acquired a Rage Fury Maxx card (the one with the two Rage 128 Pro chips). I've heard they can be very interesting to get working properly! I've got a fresh machine here (An Athlon 1800mhz) with a fresh install of Windows 98-SE. The card is in there and works but obviously just runs as a VGA card at the moment, no vendor specific drivers are installed.

Which driver package would you suggest I download and install for this card?

Thank you so much for your advice 😀

Intresting card for sure and to use both cores you need win9x os.
I have used single Rage128Pro only and these are for single cards
For me fastest OpenGL for single card and Win9x is OpenGL 1274
https://www.retrohardware-reviews.de/ati-rage … e-right-driver/

Rage128Pro OpenGL 1274
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/eV600jDAliJ_3w/DLL_O … 1274ogl.zip?w=1

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I have no experience with ATi Rage Fury Maxx, they need special driver
For the Rage Fury Maxx (2xRage128Pro), some Win9x drivers are here:
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/eV600jDAliJ_3w/Win9x … Fury%20Maxx?w=1
https://www.philscomputerlab.com/ati-rage-fury-maxx.html

Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
30+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi Rage3 cards : Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files