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I hope someone can make use of this. It took over three hours to put together. Please contribute if you can!

I was talking with another member here recently, trying to find software for this Salient AT3000 TIGA\Falcon64 ISA VGA card, and it occurred to me that I hadn't seen a thread that served as a repository for all of the various retro driver archives and websites that still remain online... so I decided to make one!

I'd like to focus on PC hardware drivers and documentation in this thread. If you have a big pile of links though, feel free to dump them here... just please point out which ones actually have drivers. This should be a good resource for those looking to get their old hardware working, even if it is really uncommon. Archives of old manuals or promotional material can sometimes provide new search terms to locate obscure drivers, so they can be very useful too.

If you do post a link, a short description of what is available at the site (or any help navigating it) would be helpful, if you can. I'm posting multiple links to relevant sections of certain websites, so people don't have to dig so much. I am also posting links to some of the more useful commercial "driver sites" out there, as well as dead or archived sites, since many of them provide filenames that are otherwise not available anywhere on the internet.

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Archives\Collections:

http://vogonsdrivers.com/

Doesn't need much explanation, but here it is. 😀

https://www.philscomputerlab.com/

Again, doesn't need a lot of introduction, but it's a great place to find not only drivers and modded drivers, but an explanation of why you'd want to use a specific version.

http://www.bitsavers.org/

Huge variety of very obscure documentation, software, images, magazines and more. Seems to focus mainly on more professional stuff, or pre-90s stuff, but there is too much to sum up in one sentence. If you want to do a quick search for something, go to the bottom of each section and open the "indexbydate" file. You can then do a simple text search of everything in that directory.

https://www.elhvb.com/mobokive/Archive/index.html
https://www.infania.net/misc/moboarchive/index.html
https://www.infania.net/misc/moboarchive/Oldm … m/mb/index.html

Tons of motherboard drivers, BIOS roms, software and documentation... mostly from the 90s. The "mobo archive" is mirrored on two of the sites above. I don't know if either copy of this archive is more or less complete, so I posted both. The third link is there just to point out that there is a large 386\486 documentation archive hidden in the other archive (as pointed out by this poster a couple years back). There may be more like that, I don't know.

https://www.infania.net/
ftp://ftp.infania.net/

Along with the moboarchive above, Infania.net seems to have several other sections that are extremely handy, like a PS/2 software archive, and their own FTP server with other drivers and software.

ftp://ftp.aztech.com/SUPPORT/DOWNLOAD/

Aztech's FTP! It's incredible that this still exists, though I have no idea who is hosting it. Tons of software and documentation going all the way back to their earliest devices. You'll find most of their sound cards under "sg" (Sound Galaxy). It's too bad we don't have one of these for every manufacturer...

ftp://ftp.dyu.edu.tw/pub/

Stumbled across this in a while back. Not super organized, pretty slow to load (for me in the US), but there's a ton of interesting drivers and docs there. I've found some very obscure sound card files there, though I think some links are broken. If anyone knows of any mirrors of this archive, please post them! Make sure to dig in to the various folders whether they sound relevant or not. There may be files for a specific device under "vendor" as well as buried in the "stuff" directory.

http://falconfly.vogonswiki.com/

Falconfly.de was the go-to site for 3dfx drivers and software, so I'm glad that there are several mirrors of it out there.

https://www.oldergeeks.com/downloads/index.php

A good assortment of files and a small selection of drivers (under Device Drivers), some fairly obscure. Easy site to browse, no ads.

https://soggi.org/

Mainly motherboard focused site, with lots of information and BIOS files, but also has a decent collection in the drivers section. No ads, simple retro-style site... very easy to navigate.

https://msfn.org/board/topic/115903-compilati … for-windows-9x/

Nice compilation of SB Live drivers to get basic functionality out of several different versions with one download, along with a discussion about various versions. I know this isn't really an archive, but this is just as useful when there are so many versions of the Live! out there that they could have their own driver archive and you still may not get a certain model to work.

"Driver Sites":
Disclaimer: Have patience, watch what you click on, ignore "updaters", use an adblocker if necessary. These can be sketchy sites but the sheer quantity of drivers they have cannot be denied.

https://www.driverguide.com/

Insane amount of driver files on a site that's been around for 25 years (been using it myself for over 20). I would say that 90% of the time I search for something here I eventually find a driver that works, unless it is really obscure. Just beware of all the clickbait and ads. If you only ever click the file name (no download buttons or "update utilities"), you'll get to the file you want fairly easily. Ad blocker recommended! The search is also fast and pretty effective.

https://us.driverscollection.com/

Huge collection of drivers, not a very useful search, but the links seem to work and it doesn't seem to use clickbait.

https://www.station-drivers.com/index.php?opt … mid=353&lang=en

I remember this having more retro related drivers than it seems to have now, but they may still be here if you dig. I'm sure a lot of this stuff will be retro before long.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/sortdate/drivers.html

Been going to this site for like 20 years and they still have some old drivers listed (as well as lots of useful programs).

https://fileforum.com/browse/Drivers

Very general, not the best search, but there are a lot of drivers and other retro files (even game modding stuff) here going back 20+ years, and the links I tried seem to all work.

Archived\Dead sites that may still be useful to find file names:


https://web.archive.org/web/20050715000514/ht … driverzone.com/

Sadly, DriverZone.com seems to be dead now. All the links go to the same broken file, but they used to have such a nice variety that it is probably still useful to simply browse the site from archive.org to at least get file names if the files themselves aren't available. You might have to pick different years to find what you're looking for. The bookmark I made for this site years ago is titled "DriverZone! - TONS OF OBSCURE DRIVERS", and I would have named it that for a reason. 😀

https://archive.org/details/software?tab=collection

This is more general, but it's certainly worth typing the name of a brand, device or file in here if you are looking for something obscure. I see lots of old drivers on here, though I admittedly haven't used it a lot myself... yet!

http://www.soundcard-drivers.com/

Not sure if this site ever had the actual files available, now they just try to give you a stupid "updater" for each link, but there are THOUSANDS of file names listed here, many of them for obscure hardware. This can be a big help when searching the other sites.
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As a side question, is there a way to "map out" an FTP entirely? I'd love to be able to search through one offline without downloading the entire thing. I have archived a couple of the ones I use frequently, but I really don't "need" to horde entire copies of FTP servers that are already mirrored multiple times online. This obviously has some impact on the web host as well.

Also, I'm trying to find a site that I used to go to... I think it was either Russian or German, but I could be wrong. I believe it had a green background, and little picture icons for the driver categories. What was it?? Maybe it wasn't even a driver site. 😮

Last edited by Ozzuneoj on 2021-02-19, 17:01. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 1 of 48, by Pierre32

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Nice work!

I want to add, begrudgingly, https://www.solodrivers.com/. It shares all the features of the other "Driver Sites" so you need to watch your step and don't download the wrong thing. But there are drivers buried in that mess, if you've got absolutely nowhere else to turn. Note: Chrome won't initiate their downloads for me. But I've tested in IE (in a VM) and retrieved clean, legit files.

Might be worth adding http://www.win3x.org/uh19/ with its growing library of mobo manuals and BIOS images. related thread

You've mentioned archive.org, and just to throw my two cents in: It's generally one of my first stops along with Vogons Drivers. It's chaotic but often fruitful. Lots of mobo CDs and big driver pack CDs in there. I upload whenever I find something they don't have.

Reply 2 of 48, by Ozzuneoj

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Pierre32 wrote on 2021-02-13, 06:58:
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Nice work!

I want to add, begrudgingly, https://www.solodrivers.com/. It shares all the features of the other "Driver Sites" so you need to watch your step and don't download the wrong thing. But there are drivers buried in that mess, if you've got absolutely nowhere else to turn. Note: Chrome won't initiate their downloads for me. But I've tested in IE (in a VM) and retrieved clean, legit files.

Might be worth adding http://www.win3x.org/uh19/ with its growing library of mobo manuals and BIOS images. related thread

You've mentioned archive.org, and just to throw my two cents in: It's generally one of my first stops along with Vogons Drivers. It's chaotic but often fruitful. Lots of mobo CDs and big driver pack CDs in there. I upload whenever I find something they don't have.

Thanks for the links and the comments!

Any suggestions for looking for drivers on archive.org? I only ever use it for finding archived websites, I'm totally new to searching for software on there. Seems a bit chaotic for sure.

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Reply 3 of 48, by Pierre32

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For driver searches on archive.org, I just type my terms into this box:

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When the results come up, hit the checkbox on the left to filter for software:

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And that's it - I never really get into the advanced filtering options. It's generally pretty good at putting the most relevant stuff at the top, if it exists. And all the other stuff that appears often makes for some interesting rabbit holes.

Reply 4 of 48, by duga3

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NVIDIA drivers

Not exactly a repo but one can download NVIDIA drivers using a similar link naming convention, just change the driver version twice and you can download any driver (at least I think so).

This way you will be able to retrieve driver versions that you won't find on the front-end of their website's driver search tool. But you need to know/guess the driver version and guess the correct link format.

Sometimes driver is available only in "international" or "english" version.

Some are "whql" and those without it may or may not be a beta version driver.

You can use HTTP or HTTPS.

https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/81.98/81.98_forceware_win9x_english.exe
https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/93.81/93.81_forceware_winxp2k_english.exe
https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/93.81/93.81_forceware_winxp2k_english.exe
https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/93.71/93.71_forceware_winxp2k_international_whql.exe
https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/355.98/355.98-desktop-winxp-32bit-international.exe
https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/335.04/335.04-desktop-winxp-64bit-international.exe
https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/280.26/280.26-desktop-win7-winvista-32bit-english-whql.exe
https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/365.19/365.19-desktop-win8-win7-winvista-32bit-international-whql.exe
https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/334.89/334.89-desktop-win8-win7-winvista-32bit-english-whql.exe
https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/334.89/334.89-desktop-win8-win7-winvista-64bit-english-whql.exe
https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/368.69/368.69-desktop-win10-32bit-international-whql.exe 

Someone with a lot of free time could code a bot to dump all the possible links. It is a lot of combinations though. But there are scraping services these days, where you can deploy your code and run it on a large net of computers, so you won't get blocked for too many requests by NVIDIA. Then someone could download it all and upload it somewhere, perhaps archive.org might be okay with it. But it would all be a big effort for something that may or may not be really worth it.

If you know other possible link formats, send me a PM and I will update this post.

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Reply 5 of 48, by duga3

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https://archive.org/details/gamecopyworld-files (50GB!) (2013-10-25)

Archive of all files made available via http://gamecopyworld.com/ organised in folders as /GAME_NAME/FILE_NAME. The json file can be used to map the files to their original locations. 

Delete if not allowed but sometimes you really need to use a crack even when you have the original disc.

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Reply 6 of 48, by Ozzuneoj

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If anyone has any other archives, websites, FTPs etc. that are home to drivers, please post them!

This would be a good place for the archives of :

Pre-Win7 Sony drivers that people have discussed in this thread.

leecher uploaded the individual files here:
http://dose.0wnz.at/ftp.vaiolink.com/

And archive.org allows you to download the entire thing if you feel the need to do so:
https://archive.org/details/ftp.vaio-link.com

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Reply 7 of 48, by Deksor

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I like this idea 😀

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2021-02-13, 06:20:


http://www.soundcard-drivers.com/

Not sure if this site ever had the actual files available, now they just try to give you a stupid "updater" for each link, but there are THOUSANDS of file names listed here, many of them for obscure hardware. This can be a big help when searching the other sites.

This site is actually a "hotlinker" to driverguide. There are many like this one, I don't remember their names, and I don't know who made them, but all their listing are hotlinks to driverguide.

However it's still useful in a way because the pages list some content that isn't indexed by google on driverguide.
Once you've located your driver on soundcard-drivers.com, click on "more", then look at the URL. It shoul look like "http://www.soundcard-drivers.com/drivers/xxxx … /yyyyyyyyyy.htm" "yyyyyyyyy" is actually the id in Driveguide's database !
You can then type "https://www.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php … erid=yyyyyyyyyy" to get to the driver you wanted 😀

As for nvidia driver, here's a post I made on Win3x.org listing every nvidia drivers for windows 3.1x/NT3-4/9x with the version, the release date and the cards that are supposed to be compatible with it ^^
http://www.win3x.org/win3board/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=481

It's pretty useful when trying to match a card's release date, because I noticed drivers often got much worse some time after the release (for example : driver 3.x from 1999/2000 works perfectly on my geforce DDR, driver 21.x from 2001 is garbage for that card).

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Deksor wrote on 2021-02-18, 19:02:
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I like this idea 😀

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2021-02-13, 06:20:


http://www.soundcard-drivers.com/

Not sure if this site ever had the actual files available, now they just try to give you a stupid "updater" for each link, but there are THOUSANDS of file names listed here, many of them for obscure hardware. This can be a big help when searching the other sites.

This site is actually a "hotlinker" to driverguide. There are many like this one, I don't remember their names, and I don't know who made them, but all their listing are hotlinks to driverguide.

However it's still useful in a way because the pages list some content that isn't indexed by google on driverguide.
Once you've located your driver on soundcard-drivers.com, click on "more", then look at the URL. It shoul look like "http://www.soundcard-drivers.com/drivers/xxxx … /yyyyyyyyyy.htm" "yyyyyyyyy" is actually the id in Driveguide's database !
You can then type "https://www.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php … erid=yyyyyyyyyy" to get to the driver you wanted 😀

As for nvidia driver, here's a post I made on Win3x.org listing every nvidia drivers for windows 3.1x/NT3-4/9x with the version, the release date and the cards that are supposed to be compatible with it ^^
http://www.win3x.org/win3board/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=481

It's pretty useful when trying to match a card's release date, because I noticed drivers often got much worse some time after the release (for example : driver 3.x from 1999/2000 works perfectly on my geforce DDR, driver 21.x from 2001 is garbage for that card).

Other sites are video-drivers.com, printer-drivers.com, cdrom-drivers.com and probably more.

Unfortunately alot of the uploads do not exist any longer on driverguide.com using the trick above. According to archive.org, direct downloads on video-drivers.com were possible up untill january 2018 when it seems their CAPTCHA service either changed or went down, and then they just removed it.

Solvusoft.com seems to either be linked to Driverguide or have copied a large amount of their drivers. Here I've found drivers missing on driverguide.com. The trick is to use the ID on video-drivers.com/etc and add it to the following URL:

https://driversdownload.solvusoft.com/dXXXXX.zip

Where XXXXX is the ID.

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Reply 13 of 48, by Deksor

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vetz wrote on 2021-02-18, 19:19:
Other sites are video-drivers.com, printer-drivers.com, cdrom-drivers.com and probably more. […]
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Deksor wrote on 2021-02-18, 19:02:
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I like this idea 😀

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2021-02-13, 06:20:


http://www.soundcard-drivers.com/

Not sure if this site ever had the actual files available, now they just try to give you a stupid "updater" for each link, but there are THOUSANDS of file names listed here, many of them for obscure hardware. This can be a big help when searching the other sites.

This site is actually a "hotlinker" to driverguide. There are many like this one, I don't remember their names, and I don't know who made them, but all their listing are hotlinks to driverguide.

However it's still useful in a way because the pages list some content that isn't indexed by google on driverguide.
Once you've located your driver on soundcard-drivers.com, click on "more", then look at the URL. It shoul look like "http://www.soundcard-drivers.com/drivers/xxxx … /yyyyyyyyyy.htm" "yyyyyyyyy" is actually the id in Driveguide's database !
You can then type "https://www.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php … erid=yyyyyyyyyy" to get to the driver you wanted 😀

As for nvidia driver, here's a post I made on Win3x.org listing every nvidia drivers for windows 3.1x/NT3-4/9x with the version, the release date and the cards that are supposed to be compatible with it ^^
http://www.win3x.org/win3board/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=481

It's pretty useful when trying to match a card's release date, because I noticed drivers often got much worse some time after the release (for example : driver 3.x from 1999/2000 works perfectly on my geforce DDR, driver 21.x from 2001 is garbage for that card).

Other sites are video-drivers.com, printer-drivers.com, cdrom-drivers.com and probably more.

Unfortunately alot of the uploads do not exist any longer on driverguide.com using the trick above. According to archive.org, direct downloads on video-drivers.com were possible up untill january 2018 when it seems their CAPTCHA service either changed or went down, and then they just removed it.

Solvusoft.com seems to either be linked to Driverguide or have copied a large amount of their drivers. Here I've found drivers missing on driverguide.com. The trick is to use the ID on video-drivers.com/etc and add it to the following URL:

https://driversdownload.solvusoft.com/dXXXXX.zip

Where XXXXX is the ID.

That's fantastic !
I've downloaded soundcard-drivers.com to gather the IDs, and now with some bash-fu, I'm downloading each available file from solvusoft that were listed on soindcard-drivers. Then I could edit each page which still has a driver attached and move them somewhere, then put each page with a "broken link" to evaluate the damage.

Then I'll be able to re-use that for UH19 (and probably upload the entire thing with video card and whatevers else-driver.com to whoever wants it)

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Reply 15 of 48, by vetz

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Deksor wrote on 2021-02-19, 00:07:

That's fantastic !
I've downloaded soundcard-drivers.com to gather the IDs, and now with some bash-fu, I'm downloading each available file from solvusoft that were listed on soindcard-drivers. Then I could edit each page which still has a driver attached and move them somewhere, then put each page with a "broken link" to evaluate the damage.

Then I'll be able to re-use that for UH19 (and probably upload the entire thing with video card and whatevers else-driver.com to whoever wants it)

Loads of duplicates on those sites, but there are some gems that cannot be found anywhere else. Unfortunately not everything is stored at solvusoft or driverguide. I actually had in mind to make a script myself to see what was available.

I've actually tried to contact driverguide.com to ask if downloads will be up again anytime soon on "x-drivers.com", but haven't received any reply.

I try to focus on a special product range/brand when I search for drivers. I've done Canopus graphic cards, PowerVR cards, many of the Rendition cards, Sigma Designs and Ageia PhysX

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Yeah, I'm downloading everything (I hope I won't be ip banned ...) before they do any more harm.

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Reply 19 of 48, by Ozzuneoj

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Wow, I just found lists of dozens of driver pages (and FTPs) for different manufacturers.

https://www.oocities.org/hs1oes/drivers/drivers.html

https://www.oocities.org/hs1oes/drivers/video.html

https://www.oocities.org/hs1oes/drivers/sound.html

I'm sure 90% of the FTP and web links are down, but if any of those were archived elsewhere, that could be a very useful site. 😀

Personally, I'd love to find a backup of that STB FTP. They used a ton of odd VGA chips over the years so their FTP would likely have a lot of pretty uncommon drivers. For example, one variant of the Horizon 64 PCI used a Sierra Falcon64, which is pretty hard to find drivers for.

EDIT: Nevermind about the Horizon 64 driver. This post lead me to here. Thanks Cyclone3D. 😁

Sadly, it doesn't work that well, so I still need the original Salient driver for my card.

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