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Reply 20 of 46, by Grzyb

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VGM files can contain music for various sound chips.
Universal VGM player would need to emulate all the chips.

I guess Mod Master doesn't emulate anything, and can only play a file if matching hardware is present.

BTW, there was an idea to emulate CMS using OPL2 or OPL3, but it seems it wouldn't sound 100% correct - Idea CMS emulation via TSR

Reply 22 of 46, by FreddyV

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davide.guida@gmail.c wrote on 2022-04-18, 05:04:
It's the VGM you put in the zip file. GB_MONI1.VGM Audio card is a Soundblaster 16PnP, my PC is an Amstrad PC2086 XT 8MHz. The […]
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It's the VGM you put in the zip file. GB_MONI1.VGM
Audio card is a Soundblaster 16PnP, my PC is an Amstrad PC2086 XT 8MHz.
The error is : Replay error: CMS not found.

Thanks

Hi,

It is normal this file is for CMS/Game Blaster.
Even if a CMS chip is present you need to declare its I/O port in the devices config menu.
There is no CMS in a sound blaster 16

Reply 23 of 46, by matze79

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FreddyV wrote on 2022-04-21, 05:03:

The only .MOD player supporting VGM. 😀

Ah ok 😀
Does it play native, or call external programs like sbvgm ?

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Reply 24 of 46, by FreddyV

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matze79 wrote on 2022-04-22, 18:31:
FreddyV wrote on 2022-04-21, 05:03:

The only .MOD player supporting VGM. 😀

Ah ok 😀
Does it play native, or call external programs like sbvgm ?

It is native, AND use SBVGM for not supported devices/Files.

Just place SBVGM in the same folder.

Reply 25 of 46, by ltning

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FreddyV wrote on 2022-04-05, 06:14:
ltning wrote on 2022-04-04, 18:00:

It doesn't seem to see more than 1MB on GUS PnP/InterWave .. is this known?

Yes, not implemented.
For the moment, I never used a module with >1Mb samples :)

It would be pretty impressive to see a 286 play back a 8MB XM file :D
Do you own or have access to a PnP so you could develop/test?

I'd love to use modmxt on all my computers; the "playlist" functions and such are the best I've come across.

/Eirik

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Reply 26 of 46, by FreddyV

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ltning wrote on 2022-04-26, 18:57:
It would be pretty impressive to see a 286 play back a 8MB XM file :D Do you own or have access to a PnP so you could develop/te […]
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FreddyV wrote on 2022-04-05, 06:14:
ltning wrote on 2022-04-04, 18:00:

It doesn't seem to see more than 1MB on GUS PnP/InterWave .. is this known?

Yes, not implemented.
For the moment, I never used a module with >1Mb samples 😀

It would be pretty impressive to see a 286 play back a 8MB XM file 😁
Do you own or have access to a PnP so you could develop/test?

I'd love to use modmxt on all my computers; the "playlist" functions and such are the best I've come across.

/Eirik

Thanks,

Yes, I have a GUS PnP

Reply 27 of 46, by genocho

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Hello, I have tried the mod master xt v1.0 with my gravis ultrasound max and when I play a mod for example I only hear part of the mod completely cut off and without synchronism, it is heard in chunks. My gus max is well configured (jumpers) and works well in pinball fantasies and other gus players. I'm using it on a 286 with 4.11 drivers, any idea what the problem could be freddy?

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Reply 28 of 46, by FreddyV

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genocho wrote on 2022-06-17, 00:11:

Hello, I have tried the mod master xt v1.0 with my gravis ultrasound max and when I play a mod for example I only hear part of the mod completely cut off and without synchronism, it is heard in chunks. My gus max is well configured (jumpers) and works well in pinball fantasies and other gus players. I'm using it on a 286 with 4.11 drivers, any idea what the problem could be freddy?

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Hi,

The GUS MAX use GF1 like the standard GUS so it should work.

Can you try removing the Config file ? (MODMXT.CFG)

Reply 29 of 46, by genocho

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FreddyV wrote on 2022-06-17, 11:39:
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genocho wrote on 2022-06-17, 00:11:

Hello, I have tried the mod master xt v1.0 with my gravis ultrasound max and when I play a mod for example I only hear part of the mod completely cut off and without synchronism, it is heard in chunks. My gus max is well configured (jumpers) and works well in pinball fantasies and other gus players. I'm using it on a 286 with 4.11 drivers, any idea what the problem could be freddy?

Thanks.

Hi,

The GUS MAX use GF1 like the standard GUS so it should work.

Can you try removing the Config file ? (MODMXT.CFG)

I removed the cfg file and same issue, sound like channels cut off and on all the time, it sounds, but with this strange behaviour.
I checked the mixer on the gus and all fine like it should be, and like i said the gus works fine with other players and games.
No idea what else to do or check.

Thanks.

Reply 30 of 46, by ltning

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genocho wrote on 2022-06-17, 15:15:
I removed the cfg file and same issue, sound like channels cut off and on all the time, it sounds, but with this strange behavi […]
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FreddyV wrote on 2022-06-17, 11:39:
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genocho wrote on 2022-06-17, 00:11:

Hello, I have tried the mod master xt v1.0 with my gravis ultrasound max and when I play a mod for example I only hear part of the mod completely cut off and without synchronism, it is heard in chunks. My gus max is well configured (jumpers) and works well in pinball fantasies and other gus players. I'm using it on a 286 with 4.11 drivers, any idea what the problem could be freddy?

Thanks.

Hi,

The GUS MAX use GF1 like the standard GUS so it should work.

Can you try removing the Config file ? (MODMXT.CFG)

I removed the cfg file and same issue, sound like channels cut off and on all the time, it sounds, but with this strange behaviour.
I checked the mixer on the gus and all fine like it should be, and like i said the gus works fine with other players and games.
No idea what else to do or check.

Thanks.

Have you tweaked your ISA bus speed? I have had similar issues when the bus speed has gone >10MHz with GUS Classic, perhaps the Max is more sensitive?

/Eirik

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486BL-100/32MB/ET4kW32p VLB/AWELegacy
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Reply 31 of 46, by genocho

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ltning wrote on 2022-06-17, 15:26:
genocho wrote on 2022-06-17, 15:15:
I removed the cfg file and same issue, sound like channels cut off and on all the time, it sounds, but with this strange behavi […]
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FreddyV wrote on 2022-06-17, 11:39:

Hi,

The GUS MAX use GF1 like the standard GUS so it should work.

Can you try removing the Config file ? (MODMXT.CFG)

I removed the cfg file and same issue, sound like channels cut off and on all the time, it sounds, but with this strange behaviour.
I checked the mixer on the gus and all fine like it should be, and like i said the gus works fine with other players and games.
No idea what else to do or check.

Thanks.

Have you tweaked your ISA bus speed? I have had similar issues when the bus speed has gone >10MHz with GUS Classic, perhaps the Max is more sensitive?

/Eirik

The 286 mainboard is at 8mhz now, same problem, i dont know if can change the isa bus speed.

I think is some kind of incompatibility with the gus max, anyone tried mod xt with a gus max ?

Thanks.

Reply 33 of 46, by 8bitbubsy

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4 channel mixing @ 30kHz on an 8086 8MHz without stuttering is really amazing. I'm also a bit amazed at how fast the 150kB module loads to RAM after you select it in the file browser. Feel like sharing the source code?

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Reply 34 of 46, by FreddyV

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Some test files

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Reply 35 of 46, by FreddyV

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8bitbubsy wrote on 2022-06-17, 20:57:

4 channel mixing @ 30kHz on an 8086 8MHz without stuttering is really amazing. I'm also a bit amazed at how fast the 150kB module loads to RAM after you select it in the file browser. Feel like sharing the source code?

Hi,

The maximum mix speed depends on the module as well, if it does not need to mix 4 Channels all the time.

Where have you seen 30KHz ? the limit is more around 26/28KHz

Basically, I used a lot of trick, 6 Buffers, Channel mix paused if the buffer calculation is too late, don't do a ADD, but a MOV for the first channel mix (Faster and avoid to clean the buffer before)
The sample loop is extended at the end of the sample, to not test if the sample end is reached all the time.

So, even if the CPU Does not follow, we can't hear problem in the sound.

For the module load speed, it can be much faster if you convert the file to the .MMM format.

I plan to release the code, as a sound system.
I already shared it with some ppls.

Reply 36 of 46, by ltning

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FreddyV wrote on 2022-04-29, 16:51:
ltning wrote on 2022-04-26, 18:57:
It would be pretty impressive to see a 286 play back a 8MB XM file :D Do you own or have access to a PnP so you could develop/te […]
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FreddyV wrote on 2022-04-05, 06:14:

Yes, not implemented.
For the moment, I never used a module with >1Mb samples :)

It would be pretty impressive to see a 286 play back a 8MB XM file :D
Do you own or have access to a PnP so you could develop/test?

I'd love to use modmxt on all my computers; the "playlist" functions and such are the best I've come across.

/Eirik

Thanks,

Yes, I have a GUS PnP

Need a nice module to test with? :)

/Eirik

286-24/4MB/ET4kW32/GUS+SBPro2
386DX-40/20MB/CL5434 ISA/GUSExtreme
486DX-50/64MB/S3-928 EISA/GUSPnP+OPL3SA
486BL-100/32MB/ET4kW32p VLB/AWELegacy
~ love over gold ~

Reply 38 of 46, by sparky4

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i found a bad bug in 1.00

load the modm from floppy from a directory not \ and swap it out and try to get it to load the new floppy's parent directory

hit up and down arrow keys and bam! glitches!
😁 this software is awesome keep it up! <3

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wwww

Reply 39 of 46, by FreddyV

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sparky4 wrote on 2022-07-19, 15:11:
i found a bad bug in 1.00 […]
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i found a bad bug in 1.00

load the modm from floppy from a directory not \ and swap it out and try to get it to load the new floppy's parent directory

hit up and down arrow keys and bam! glitches!
😁 this software is awesome keep it up! <3

Who still use floppy ? 😀