cyclone3d wrote on 2022-02-06, 20:39:

I wouldn't go bashing on Biostar. When I worked at a computer store in 2000-2001, we were buying motherboards directly from Biostar.

We sold many more times Biostar boards than all other brands combined and had fewer bad Biostar boards than any other single brand.

I don't know about later boards, but 386 and 486 era Biostars seem very reliable and have good performance...

== stuff it, this is no place for such matters to be discussed ==

MMaximus wrote on 2022-02-06, 18:41:

RandomStranger wrote on 2022-02-06, 16:48:

So, some of you were mildly interested in my day at the vintage market.

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Which country was this in? I'd greatly appreciate if we could refrain from posting pictures of Nazi memorabilia on this forum

Damn, so I guess we shouldn't post anything IBM-related as well, considering their ties with the Nazi regime...

Let's just stick to technical talk, friends. Else there are problems. We have enough problems, everywhere else in the world/internet. Let's stick here to what we all know and enjoy.

Had to ship the broken PVM-8045Q back to where it came from to get a refund.

Almost got a cool console TV, however, the seller hasn't responded back to my message about the photo of the rear yet.

And I agree: no political talk on this site, ladies and gentlemen. Don't want this thread to get locked and don't want people to get barred on this site.

Oh. And I bought some Android TV boxes (two of them are Android 4.X and the others are 7.1, which aren't retro yet).

bjwil1991 wrote on 2022-02-07, 03:24:

don't want people to get barred on this site.

Yes, can get other people barred just from loading the page, as some countries have laws against extremist symbols and imagery.

Zida Tomato TX-100 with Pentium 200 MMX in this AT case which I really don't like

RandomStranger wrote on 2022-02-06, 16:48:

First thing I have to say, one of the merchants was a good girl :D https://imghost.org/images/2022/02/06/20220206_105151.md.jpg […]
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First thing I have to say, one of the merchants was a good girl 😁

I've always been pretty good resisting the urge to buy stuff I like but don't really need, but how the heck are you supposed to summon enough backbone to say no to a seller like that 😀

RandomStranger wrote on 2022-02-06, 16:48:

I found it interesting that this was on the two sides of the same table.

Well maybe some Nazi robbed a Jewish house or a synagogue (what they did all the time) and kept property to himself, now it's sold along with his stuff.

BitWrangler wrote on 2022-02-07, 04:00:

bjwil1991 wrote on 2022-02-07, 03:24:

don't want people to get barred on this site.

Yes, can get other people barred just from loading the page, as some countries have laws against extremist symbols and imagery.

France bans the display of such items but owning and selling them are allowed. So you can sell them, but you can't show them. You can display a blurred/altered picture, or describe the item with text.
That is a bit weird because games depicting Nazi symbols are still allowed (Wolfenstein series games are not censored in France).

Speaking of sickening things...

acl wrote on 2022-02-07, 08:54:

France bans the display of such items but owning and selling them are allowed. So you can sell them, but you can't show them. Yo […]
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BitWrangler wrote on 2022-02-07, 04:00:

bjwil1991 wrote on 2022-02-07, 03:24:

don't want people to get barred on this site.

Yes, can get other people barred just from loading the page, as some countries have laws against extremist symbols and imagery.

France bans the display of such items but owning and selling them are allowed. So you can sell them, but you can't show them. You can display a blurred/altered picture, or describe the item with text.
That is a bit weird because games depicting Nazi symbols are still allowed (Wolfenstein series games are not censored in France).

Speaking of sickening things...

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Pretty much the same situation with swastikas and other "verfassungsfeindliche Symbole" here in Germany. You can produce them, own them, sell them, lend them and look at pictures of them as much as you want but you may not display them publicly. Sellers will usually put a sticker over them when displaying items containing them publicly or blurr out the symbols in pictures. It is allowed to some extend to show those symbols when it is socially adequate i.e. in an educational context, for research, in certain reports and in arts. That's also the reason some years ago it was decided that - if done in a socially adequate manner - it would be possible to display them in publicly released video games; just like it had long been possible to do in movies.
It would probably not be legal for me to post pictures containing those symbols on the web to illustrate my day at the flea market. (If there's a small swastika somewhere in the background that I didn't realise is there I don't think there would be any problem though.) Privately looking at somebody else's pictures is not a problem too.

What's sickening about a Fury Maxx for 5€ btw? 🤔

Doornkaat wrote on 2022-02-07, 09:39:

What's sickening about a Fury Maxx for 5€ btw? 🤔

I never saw a Fury max under 100+€ (not even talking about the ~1000€ prices sometimes seen on ebay)
The seller cancelled the transaction after i asked info about the card. I'm 100% sure we will post again the item with some zeros added behind the "5".

acl wrote on 2022-02-07, 09:49:

Doornkaat wrote on 2022-02-07, 09:39:

What's sickening about a Fury Maxx for 5€ btw? 🤔

I never saw a Fury max under 100+€ (not even talking about the ~1000€ prices sometimes seen on ebay)
The seller cancelled the transaction after i asked info about the card. I'm 100% sure we will post again the item with some zeros added behind the "5".

Damn I also hate it when that happens! Sorry, man!😐
With small lots at low prices I have learned it's always best to just say "I'm taking them all." to avoid this scenario.
Be patient, another deal will show up eventually.

acl wrote on 2022-02-07, 09:49:

Doornkaat wrote on 2022-02-07, 09:39:

What's sickening about a Fury Maxx for 5€ btw? 🤔

I never saw a Fury max under 100+€ (not even talking about the ~1000€ prices sometimes seen on ebay)
The seller cancelled the transaction after i asked info about the card. I'm 100% sure we will post again the item with some zeros added behind the "5".

You should have kept your mouth shut, paid the 5€ he asked. 🙁
Happened to me many times in the past 20+ years, just don't ask...

Nexxen wrote on 2022-02-07, 10:03:

You should have kept your mouth shut, paid the 5€ he asked. 🙁
Happened to me many times in the past 20+ years, just don't ask...

yeah, I did that once and then received the lot without all the cool cards that were on the pictures
turns out the seller had already sold all those cards individually and didn't bother to update the pictures, also didn't get anything back from them.
(and it was more than just €5)

imi wrote on 2022-02-07, 10:19:

yeah, I did that once and then received the lot without all the cool cards that were on the pictures turns out the seller had al […]
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Nexxen wrote on 2022-02-07, 10:03:

You should have kept your mouth shut, paid the 5€ he asked. 🙁
Happened to me many times in the past 20+ years, just don't ask...

yeah, I did that once and then received the lot without all the cool cards that were on the pictures
turns out the seller had already sold all those cards individually and didn't bother to update the pictures, also didn't get anything back from them.
(and it was more than just €5)

Learnt that too, ask if all that is on the pic is all I'm gonna get.
But no singling out to avoid "misunderstandings".
Market is hell 😀 We all have a few stories to tell. Also good ones. 😀

kolmio wrote on 2022-02-07, 07:19:

Zida Tomato TX-100 with Pentium 200 MMX in this AT case which I really don't like and would be happy to sell

fake pentium mmx 200

Living wrote on 2022-02-07, 10:33:

kolmio wrote on 2022-02-07, 07:19:

Zida Tomato TX-100 with Pentium 200 MMX in this AT case which I really don't like and would be happy to sell

fake pentium mmx 200

How can you tell?

Living wrote on 2022-02-07, 10:33:

kolmio wrote on 2022-02-07, 07:19:

Zida Tomato TX-100 with Pentium 200 MMX in this AT case which I really don't like and would be happy to sell

fake pentium mmx 200

The 233MHz ceramic P1 MMX CPUs are all fake. This one was really made with that sspec and frequency in the ceramic package
At first glance I don't see it as being a counterfeit, but perhaps I'm overlooking something here?

Doornkaat wrote on 2022-02-07, 09:58:

Damn I also hate it when that happens! Sorry, man!😐

Thanks !

Nexxen wrote on 2022-02-07, 10:03:

You should have kept your mouth shut, paid the 5€ he asked. 🙁
Happened to me many times in the past 20+ years, just don't ask...

imi wrote on 2022-02-07, 10:19:

turns out the seller had already sold all those cards individually and didn't bother to update the pictures, also didn't get anything back from them. (and it was more than just €5)

Yes there is no real good solutions.
I probably would have been quiet this time. But i've also lost money with the "i take all" approach. Last time, i got a pile of junk without the nice Voodoo 2 seen on the picture.
So that's life. I'm just a bit more annoyed this time because i mostly collect ATI cards while i'm not really a 3dfx enthusiast.

On the average, i think we all still make great deals on flea markets/local ads.