I'm very happy because I found the best and compatible setup for vintage DOS and Windows 3.x/9x era.

Abit KT7A Raid
AMD Mobile Athlon 4 1000
256 MB SDRam PC133
SB Live! CT4760 with LiveDrive II.
Orpheus soundcard for DOS and Windows 3.x.

For SVGA I selected ATi 9200SE, because it's Vesa 2.0. I had issues with Voodoo 3 3000 and GF2 Ti, both AGP.

Dgvoodoo2 works great with this card for glide.

Using setmul, throttle and moslo I can have from 386Sx to 486Dx4 and Pentium emulation.

Also eatxms needed for many circumstances.

No room for other builds anymore, so I packed them to the basement.

PCem, DOSBox ECE and this build will be my main vintage rigs...

Falcosoft wrote on 2022-03-21, 10:45:

Tetrium wrote on 2022-03-21, 10:21:

Falcosoft wrote on 2022-02-10, 08:27:

It seems identical person is having identical problem 😀 (Kaisersoze)

Waaaaait. cde and kaisersoze are the same person? 😮
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sock_puppet_account ?

No. Repo Man11 referenced another topic as ' another person is having the same problem' but that another person was the same person namely Kaisersoze.

Ahh, ok, thanks for clearing this up! 🤣

JSO wrote on 2022-03-21, 14:45:

I'm very happy because I found the best and compatible setup for vintage DOS and Windows 3.x/9x era. […]
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I'm very happy because I found the best and compatible setup for vintage DOS and Windows 3.x/9x era.

Abit KT7A Raid
AMD Mobile Athlon 4 1000
256 MB SDRam PC133
SB Live! CT4760 with LiveDrive II.
Orpheus soundcard for DOS and Windows 3.x.

For SVGA I selected ATi 9200SE, because it's Vesa 2.0. I had issues with Voodoo 3 3000 and GF2 Ti, both AGP.

Dgvoodoo2 works great with this card for glide.

Using setmul, throttle and moslo I can have from 386Sx to 486Dx4 and Pentium emulation.

Also eatxms needed for many circumstances.

No room for other builds anymore, so I packed them to the basement.

PCem, DOSBox ECE and this build will be my main vintage rigs...

That's a pretty awesome build! I am gearing my latest build towards something like that. You don't see many Athlon 4s, always see Mobile XPs it seems.

ptr1ck wrote:

That's a pretty awesome build! I am gearing my latest build towards something like that. You don't see many Athlon 4s, always see Mobile XPs it seems.

Yes it's good. It is right up to year 2000.

For a faster build and XP (compatible with 98SE) era, I believe my Athlon 64x2 754 with SB Live! or Audigy (Player or ZS2) alongside with ATi 9600 Pro is the best option. And for later XP era is my previous machine the FX8350 with Audigy 5 and 980Ti (latest that supports Windows XP).

And the Athlon 4 Mobile has various models with low voltages!!!

Also you can use lower multipliers starting from 5x.

I will try to modify BIOS if it's possible to use even lower multipliers. Somewhere I found an old text from 2000 that you can modify some Award bioses of that era to use lower multipliers.

Here you can find some information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A ... (Socket_A)

JSO wrote on 2022-03-21, 20:11:

Also you can use lower multipliers starting from 5x.

I think I've gone as low as 3x with a Barton XP-M with SETMUL (after running the PCISET command to fix the register first, of course).

Anybody got Voodoo2 working on Abit KT7A?

Tried two different cards, different PCI-slots, original and Fastvoodoo 4.6 drivers, PCI-related bios-settings, slow CPU down to 400MHz... Nothing helps, damn thing just crash when try to run Glide.

OS is Windows 98SE.

mockingbird wrote on 2022-03-21, 23:11:

JSO wrote on 2022-03-21, 20:11:

Also you can use lower multipliers starting from 5x.

I think I've gone as low as 3x with a Barton XP-M with SETMUL (after running the PCISET command to fix the register first, of course).

Can the registers be modified in DOS or would this be Windows only?

ptr1ck wrote on 2022-03-24, 19:53:

Can the registers be modified in DOS or would this be Windows only?

In Dos sir.

mockingbird wrote on 2022-03-24, 21:44:

ptr1ck wrote on 2022-03-24, 19:53:

Can the registers be modified in DOS or would this be Windows only?

In Dos sir.

I wonder if that could be addressed with a modded BIOS... I've got a bad tinkering habit.

dj_pirtu wrote on 2022-03-24, 13:17:

Anybody got Voodoo2 working on Abit KT7A?

Tried two different cards, different PCI-slots, original and Fastvoodoo 4.6 drivers, PCI-related bios-settings, slow CPU down to 400MHz... Nothing helps, damn thing just crash when try to run Glide.

OS is Windows 98SE.

Anybody? This problem is making me nuts because I can't figure it out...

dj_pirtu wrote on 2022-03-31, 07:01:

dj_pirtu wrote on 2022-03-24, 13:17:

Anybody got Voodoo2 working on Abit KT7A?

Tried two different cards, different PCI-slots, original and Fastvoodoo 4.6 drivers, PCI-related bios-settings, slow CPU down to 400MHz... Nothing helps, damn thing just crash when try to run Glide.

OS is Windows 98SE.

Anybody? This problem is making me nuts because I can't figure it out...

In my experience with a VIA686B QDI, PCI Voodoo2/3 doesn't play nice with an AGP GeForce. Maybe that's the explanation?

I have AGP Radeon X800Pro. But, maybe I'll try 2D-AGP card if that makes any difference.

dj_pirtu wrote on 2022-03-31, 07:57:

I have AGP Radeon X800Pro. But, maybe I'll try 2D-AGP card if that makes any difference.

Do you have a 2D PCI VGA card? (like the S3). If so, that's also a test worth trying.

cde wrote on 2022-03-31, 08:03:

dj_pirtu wrote on 2022-03-31, 07:57:

I have AGP Radeon X800Pro. But, maybe I'll try 2D-AGP card if that makes any difference.

Do you have a 2D PCI VGA card? (like the S3). If so, that's also a test worth trying.

I have those too, I'm just trying with AGP S3Trio3D and if it don't work then PCI S3Trio.

Got it working with Geforce 6800GT! Now I think my epic all-arounder is about perfect.

mockingbird wrote on 2022-01-23, 20:46:

Yes, this is for the 1.0-1.2, he also has the 1.3 BIOS there... I don't know the intricacies so much of that board revision, though I will attach my modified version of his BIOS to unhide APM (disable ACPI). I did this with modbin63, and I can't share that here, you will have to find it yourself. As for which patcher he uses, he just ran it through BP 4.23, which adds microcode and some other fixes (but removes 8x8 pixel support, or something like that, according to the report of a user here).

By the way, can I bother you with patching and sharing the 1.3 BIOS as well? My recollection is that it should be version A9 (latest for 1.3 boards) but I could be wrong.

dj_pirtu wrote on 2022-03-21, 14:38:

Kaisersoze wrote on 2022-03-21, 09:56:

dj_pirtu wrote on 2022-03-19, 07:31:

Got myself another KT7A, this time v.1.3. Maybe three caps are bulging a little, need to replace all some day. […]
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Got myself another KT7A, this time v.1.3. Maybe three caps are bulging a little, need to replace all some day.

But it has boot problems. Now it's 133FSB and 3,5V, if I raise FSB a bit it won't boot anymore. No picture. Reset or power button won't help. Only if I boot it up from PSU swith and pressing INS at the same time so it resets CPU settings.

BUT, if I can get it to windows I can set it up to 145FSB with setfsb and it's stable, no problems at all. Memory and AGP settings maxed out (but fast writes off).
My previous KT7A got only 140FSB stable.

Maybe it's the caps... CPU is Athlon XP-M 2400+ (Barton).

These kt133a's are a real p.i.t.a.
Anyway, before messing around with caps, try even a PSU switch ( a strong 5v line, starting from 30A and above ). Indeed, a recap is mandatory.

Did some googling and seems like this problem is quite common with these mobos. It won't post sometimes when doing restart from windows or ctrl+alt+del but after pressing reset-button it comes to life. And yes, hwmonitor says that my +5V and +12V are both under desired and with bad caps...

Today is the recap day. Can't get Geforce 6800GT or 6600GT working stable on that motherboard. All my Radeons works with no problem but Geforce cards keeps crashing or gives artifcats. Funny thing is that CPU voltage affects stability when Geforce is used, and/or chipset voltage (3.3V). That tells me that those caps are really bad and voltages are hovering alot...

But, Geforce is the only card that works with Voodoo so going to recap today and see if that's going to help.

Did you give the 4200 a try? I haven't tested it with the Voodoo2 but it works fine with 3.

New caps but no help to get Geforce 6800GT working here.

Tried different drivers, AGP 2X and other BIOS-settings, downclocked FSB and CPU, tried different chipset voltages...
3DMark01SE crashes on first test or runs few tests, gets artifacts and crash. It looks like the card is the problem but no, it works on my Pentium4 system with no problems.

Radeon 9600, 9700, X800Pro all work with no problems. BUT radeons don't work with Voodoo2. With Geforce 6800GT, I get Voodoo2 working on side but quite bad deal when 6800GT don't work.

Next I'll do tests with older Geforce-cards: Geforce4 Ti4200, Quadro4 980XGL...

I have noticed some PCI slots can be more finicky than others. If possible, also try to change the PCI slot.